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Anyone using the 2013 Dynastar Outland 80 XT?

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Any thoughts on this ski? I have found a couple of locations that have some great deals on these. Are they similar to the Sultan  legend 80"s or 85's? My wife & I are  Dynastar fans and this looks like a good option for an all mountain east coast utility ski, primarily for the  groomers, bumps and occasional tree skiing.  As my wife gets more comfortable in the trees, we may look at something wider for her. I use a Motive 84 now for tree skiing and it is good, but would like an "easier" bump ski for myself as well for the non tree/powder days. Something with a narrower tail than the C-84. Any users impressions that have experience with this ski model would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Hi Basil,

 

I haven't skied the Outland 80 but did demo the Outland 87 at Dartmouth Skiway last month. Conditions included hard pack and boiler plate. The 87 had superior edge hold, was quick turning while stable on longer GS type turns.I would have bought the 87 but couldn't get the price I was looking for. I did find a deal on ebay and bought the Speed Course Ti last week. This is a fantastic ski for hard pack /boiler plate. Good luck in your search.

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Speed course is my main ski. Just simply fantastic hard snow carver. Enjoy..

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Hi
 
I have an Outland 80pro 2012, so should be reasonably similar to 2013 XT. Both are non metal, but the Pro has aramid-basalt layer, while the XT has fiberglass. I dont know exactly the difference each one makes (I suppose the XT is a bit softer flex compared to the 80pro), but my ski is damp and effortless, despite the lack of metal.
 
Its not heavy nor light, I would say medium. But not a lot of swing weight, making it easy to pivot. In soft snow and junk it goes really fine, but what it doesnt like is rock hard piste and ice (who does, except those Head and atomic race dept skis), and in terms of grip in rock hard snow I must say I feel it lefts to be desired (but then, I like my grip to be like an Atomic D2 GS, or Head Rebels i.SL). That's my only complain about it. But other than that the grip is ok, you need really to tip it and the tip rocker is felt, with a small delay to engage, but also giving some flotation and crud performance.
 
The biggest pro is that its vibration free and you stay confident in most of the conditions and speeds.
 
Except for that its absolutely a workhorse, its almost like it liked the junk, bombed piste, tracked powder, spring slush.
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I demoed the xt early in the season this year and found it unremarkable so I never gave it any further thought until some buddies starting using them for easet coast off trail skiing and loved them. I only used then on groomers  and they were okay but nothing was open at the time to really test them. Anybody else used them extensively? Thanks in advance.

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Any thoughts on this ski? I have found a couple of locations that have some great deals on these. Are they similar to the Sultan  legend 80"s or 85's? My wife & I are  Dynastar fans and this looks like a good option for an all mountain east coast utility ski, primarily for the  groomers, bumps and occasional tree skiing.  As my wife gets more comfortable in the trees, we may look at something wider for her. I use a Motive 84 now for tree skiing and it is good, but would like an "easier" bump ski for myself as well for the non tree/powder days. Something with a narrower tail than the C-84. Any users impressions that have experience with this ski model would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


The Outland model series is quite different than the Legend series. More lively I believe. Try Dawgcatching.com as the owner there has been a committed dealer of Dynastar, and is very familiar with the Outland series.

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I've demoed a pair of Outland 87 and did not like them much. Maybe it was the weight. I found the skis just want to stay flat. I had to try pretty hard to let them stay on edge. Speed-wise they are fine. They just do not want to turn too much...I'm 6', 200 lb advanced skier.
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I ride the Dynastar Outland 80XT.

 

They are fast and versatile on everything. Love them!

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I've demoed a pair of Outland 87 and did not like them much. Maybe it was the weight. I found the skis just want to stay flat. I had to try pretty hard to let them stay on edge. Speed-wise they are fine. They just do not want to turn too much...I'm 6', 200 lb advanced skier.


Maybe a tune issue?

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I've demoed a pair of Outland 87 and did not like them much. Maybe it was the weight. I found the skis just want to stay flat. I had to try pretty hard to let them stay on edge. Speed-wise they are fine. They just do not want to turn too much...I'm 6', 200 lb advanced skier.


Maybe a tune issue?



Or a balance point/ front-back balance issue?   We'll probably never know, the thread is an oldie. 

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I've been riding on 2013 Outland 80 pro's 178" one best pair skis I have owned. Great ski for eastern skier. But if its a powder day, skiing bumps, or tree skiing I'm going leave them in roof rack grab my Blizzard Cochise 108 under foot. President Day at Snowshoe good example, great wet powder day on the mountain on my Blizzards rain during the night back snow, next day on mountain riding my Dynastars. If there is a chance for power day I going have my Blizzards with me.

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Surprised to see this thread getting some activity. I ended up moving to a Fischer Motive c-Line 80 and have not looked back. Extremely versatile, plenty wide for me since I ski hard pack 90% of the time. Edge hold is excellent for an 80mm waist ski.

Dynastar Chrome 74 has become  my main ski for hard pack days and the Fischer is pretty much for everything other than hard pack.

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I've demoed a pair of Outland 87 and did not like them much. Maybe it was the weight. I found the skis just want to stay flat. I had to try pretty hard to let them stay on edge. Speed-wise they are fine. They just do not want to turn too much...I'm 6', 200 lb advanced skier.


Maybe a tune issue?



Or a balance point/ front-back balance issue?   We'll probably never know, the thread is an oldie. 


You're right. My bad.

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