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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

So that i can ski on a weekly basis, I'm trying to get my GF more involved in skiing.  She's a novice at best.  She's willing to go a few times a year.  I was able to coax her into a trip to Breck next year.. 

Now the question:  should i/we invest in a pair of boots for her or continue to rent?

post #2 of 20

Don't know your GF, but speaking for myself I am much happier with comfortable feet.  If she has crappy boots that don't fit right she will not be in a mental and emotional state to want to ski more.  Rental boots are a crap shoot.  If you buy her boots and have them fitted right she should have warm and pain free feet which could really help get her going more.  How much is it worth to you?

 

Also, notice that I said nothing above about the technical advantage of having boots that fit.  A novice doesn't care, she just wants to be comfortable, but you will also be giving her the advantage of increased control, which makes the skiing more fun, which makes her want to ski more, which gets you out there more too.

 

However, DON'T take it upon yourself to teach her how to ski!  Get her some good lessons and only help her (minimally, with short, simple suggestions) when she asks for it.  Trying to teach the GF to ski no matter how wonderful and knowledgeable you are is a sure way to either sink the relationship or insure that you will ski less, or alone.  "Keep your yap shut" is my motto.

 

I know, this is more than you asked for, but it hasn't been made into a sticky yet.

post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 

lol.   i agree.  i've been smart enough to put her in lessons almost every time we get away.  i was thinking the same thing about the fit/comfort/performaance angle too.

Off/pre season i think we should be able to get a decent novice pair for a decent price.

 

thx

post #4 of 20

I agree. Buy her a pair of boots.  There are so many good novice boots that will fit and be comfortable. 

 

Breck has some great beginner/intermediate terrain where she can improve quickly and enjoy skiing.

post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by GerryF View Post

So that i can ski on a weekly basis, I'm trying to get my GF more involved in skiing.  She's a novice at best.  She's willing to go a few times a year.  I was able to coax her into a trip to Breck next year..

Now the question:  should i/we invest in a pair of boots for her or continue to rent?

"Next year" is a long time for some women, particularly when there is no talk of a ring on the horizon.  Do you know if she even likes skiing, or does she do this to accomodate you?  If it is the latter, make skiing as easy as possible for her...and have other activities planned during the vacation.  Hopefully, the advice given by the other posters creates better options than finding a new girlfriend. 

post #6 of 20

The good news is that since she's a beginner, boots are going to be WAY cheaper than perhaps a boot for you. They're going to be much, much more comfortable than any rental boot, too.

 

My wife was not that into skiing when I met her. She maybe went once every couple of years. She already had a pair of boots, but they were a pair of old hand-me-downs from her mom that were ill-fitting and ancient. When we were dating, I took the gamble and sprung for a good pair of boots for her, being Dalbello Kryptons. We shopped all over town to find the boot that best matched her foot.

 

Those boots made all the difference from what she told me about previous experiences. She want from going once every couple of years to begging ME to go every weekend. She advanced big time during that season, and would be pushing me out the door on powder days. "Hurry up! We gotta get first tracks!"

 

So yes. Buy her new boots. It is a small investment for what could turn out to be a huge payoff. If she still doesn't take to skiing, then dump her and consider the cost of boots a necessary loss in the quest to find the right woman. wink.gif

post #7 of 20
My thoughts exactly. Lol
post #8 of 20

Just a short remark: it's not necessarily the end of the world if your GF/possible life partner doesn't end up skiing.  She gets to decide whether she likes skiing, you get to decide if you can live with her decision.  Tried to ski with my wife - didn't work.  I ski, she jumps horses over 5' fences, and we thoroughly enjoy sharing our experiences (yes, both our passions are equally dangerous and expensive!).  We're both better for it.

post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by Posaune View Post

Don't know your GF, but speaking for myself I am much happier with comfortable feet.  If she has crappy boots that don't fit right she will not be in a mental and emotional state to want to ski more.  Rental boots are a crap shoot.  If you buy her boots and have them fitted right she should have warm and pain free feet which could really help get her going more.  How much is it worth to you?

 

Also, notice that I said nothing above about the technical advantage of having boots that fit.  A novice doesn't care, she just wants to be comfortable, but you will also be giving her the advantage of increased control, which makes the skiing more fun, which makes her want to ski more, which gets you out there more too.

 

However, DON'T take it upon yourself to teach her how to ski!  Get her some good lessons and only help her (minimally, with short, simple suggestions) when she asks for it.  Trying to teach the GF to ski no matter how wonderful and knowledgeable you are is a sure way to either sink the relationship or insure that you will ski less, or alone.  "Keep your yap shut" is my motto.

 

I know, this is more than you asked for, but it hasn't been made into a sticky yet.

Agree with this and others above.  I just had a similar experience, so I'll tell you how it went.  Short answer, if you can find a reasonably priced pair of boots that fit well, it is well worth the initial investment.  Deals are to be had this time of year.

 

My wife, who I've known for the better part of 30 years, has had less than zero interest in skiing since I've known her.  She likes neither speed nor cold, and doesn't have great balance.  She had a terrible experience in college, when some friends took her skiing, but didn't really explain what to do once she got off the lift.  She's humored me with nordic skiing over the years, though doesn't really "get" it. 

 

She's a good sport, though, and after my daughter was born, she agreed every so often to try a lesson to encourage my daughter to try it too.  The lessons didn't take. 

 

Last year, we went to Winter Park for a few days (our first western trip), and I convinced her to try an all-day group lesson.  By the end, she was starting to get it.  This year, we went to Jackson last month.  Before leaving, I had to pick up my boots at the fitter, so she came along to look at ski pants.  Since there were end of season deals, I convinced her to try on some boots, since the rental cost add up quickly and she would be more comfortable in her own boots.  She ended up buying a pair for a reasonable price (and decided to get skis too while she was at it).  I was nervous about Jackson, giving its reputation for limited beginner trails, but after a few days of lessons, she was loving it.  She even made it up to some of the Apres Vous blue trails, which are no joke at Jackson.  She loved having her own boots, and felt that they gave her so much more control and confidence.  And these are not performance boots.  Also, it eliminates dealing with the rental counter, which I find kind of stressful and tiring.  Now she's excited for the next time we can go out west. 

 

While each relationship is different, I found it to be a great investment.  To answer your question, " should i/we invest in a pair of boots," yes, you should, since this is really a gift for yourself, not her (at least for now).  If she's the one for the long haul, it's a good investment of only $300.00 or so. 

post #10 of 20

The short answer--absolutely, positively, YES!

If her feet are not happy, she will not be happy.

FullTilt has made my feet very happy.

post #11 of 20

Buy yourself new boots and tell her you are going skiing with or without her.  If she isn't there when you come back, it just wasn't meant to be.  My gf embraces my skiing addiction because she knows how happy it makes me and she is smart enough to not come along because she knows she wouldn't enjoy trying to keep up with me.

post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by GerryF View Post

So that i can ski on a weekly basis, I'm trying to get my GF more involved in skiing.  She's a novice at best.  She's willing to go a few times a year.  I was able to coax her into a trip to Breck next year.. 

Now the question:  should i/we invest in a pair of boots for her or continue to rent?

 

The key variable here is WHY she doesn't like skiing. If its because she gets pain from rental equipment, maybe a set of new boots is in order.

 

If its because she is terrified of heights and reports of injury, doesn't like going fast, doesn't like using up her whole weekend, or just plain has no interest in doing it, I don't see what new boots are going to do.  Either try to address the main problem, or find a way to get your skiing in without her.

 

My wife is a skier. But my major off-season activity is going to the lake and running stand-up jet skis. My wife will come with me one out of every 4 times and ride the one sit down I have for 15 minutes before going to shore and being done.  She tried to run a standup for 3 minutes before she gave up, hasn't tried since.  This means I do less riding than I would like.  Buying her a new jet ski isn't going to change any of that. Instead we try to find ways to make it work. She likes camping, so we spend lots of weekends camped on the lakeshore... :)

post #13 of 20
I'll give some slightly contrarian advice. Lessons aren't much fun until the passion is there. DO ski with her. DO give her tips. DO be patient, laugh, and have fun. DO stop for breaks, soak in the culture, take silly self portraits and post them up. If you can't enjoy this, she may not either. You dump kids at ski school on your vacation, not lovers biggrin.gif.

And yes, boots and good technical outerwear that she looks good in will go a long way.
post #14 of 20
This was my wife's first year to ski. After she tried it a few times and I knew she loved it, I made it a priority (#1), for her to get boots. She has, and of course they were brutal to begin with, but I believe we have the kinks worked out of them. If she wasn't so sure she loved skiing, I wouldn't have.

Anyone that skis more than 3 days a year should own boots. iMO.
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post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by NayBreak View Post

I'll give some slightly contrarian advice. Lessons aren't much fun until the passion is there. DO ski with her. DO give her tips. DO be patient, laugh, and have fun. DO stop for breaks, soak in the culture, take silly self portraits and post them up. If you can't enjoy this, she may not either. You dump kids at ski school on your vacation, not lovers biggrin.gif.

And yes, boots and good technical outerwear that she looks good in will go a long way.

I have to disagree on lessons. I'm the "girlfriend" in this story even though I'm a guy. For years, my son tried to get me on skis or a board, but I had a longstanding suspicion of slippery slopes and gravity, mainly due to a long-ago failure with long, straight skis and faulty instruction from friends. Anyway, my son finally talked me into one of those lift-lesson-rental deals. I could not believe how much fun I had. The instructor was great, and soon I knew how to use turns and the terrain to control my speed. Of course, the rental boots fit OK, and the short, shaped skis were a revelation for control and ease of use. But the main factor was the instructor, a humorous, easygoing guy who REALLY knew his stuff. Without getting off on the right foot, the passion may never develop. Get the lady some lesssons.


Edited by slipshod - 4/15/13 at 9:29am
post #17 of 20

Whether it be a significant other or a friend, get them lessons. Generally, people do not have the experience and teaching skills to shorten the learning curve. The SO or friend can see you as being critical instead of helpful. Let your SO or friend get off on the right ski and have a greater chance at a positive first experience.

post #18 of 20

I'd third that.  Never give or take lessons from your SO.  Disaster in the making.  Just welcome their presence and ignore their skiing style.  Refrain from pointers, etc.  I know it's hard to keep your mouth shut, but you have to.  Also, if they are in a lesson, there is almost always someone else WORSE than they are, so they won't feel so outclassed by their companions.  

post #19 of 20

BUY'EM - warm comfortable boots help us to ski better and help us enjoy our time on the snow more than any other single gear issue.

post #20 of 20

BUMP to a thread from April 2013

 

Quote: Post #1

Originally Posted by GerryF View Post
 

So that i can ski on a weekly basis, I'm trying to get my GF more involved in skiing.  She's a novice at best.  She's willing to go a few times a year.  I was able to coax her into a trip to Breck next year.. 

Now the question:  should i/we invest in a pair of boots for her or continue to rent?


Did she buy boots?  Did you take her to Breck in 2013-14?  Any advice for other folks in a similar situation?

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