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Hi - Curious what the collective IQ can say about a couple of demo setups: The Salomon Z12 and the old Look P12. Z12's are coming mounted on a pair of skis I just scored, the P12's are new, mine, unmounted. Latter are pretty bomber bindings, AFAIR, but not sure about the demo plates. Have heard you can slip both toe and heel off quickly, which could have interesting applications.

 

OTOH, Z12's (plain, not Ti) do not have a stellar reputation for durability, but I know zilch about the demo plate. I've read that the normal (non-demo) Z12 mounts crack at the screw holes, and that Salomon has been replacing with a steel plate for free. Trying to decide if worth using as is, or should I remount without demo plates, or just slap on better bindings, period. Obviously, redrilling makes it a cost/benefit thing.

 

Ideas? 

post #2 of 5
All things being equal, a better binding. Now, depends on the ski. If it is a hard snow specific ski, a better binding/interface is worth it. For a soft snow ski, not quite as much but you are adding more weight. Life is too short to shortcut on bindings.
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

All things being equal, a better binding. Now, depends on the ski. If it is a hard snow specific ski, a better binding/interface is worth it. For a soft snow ski, not quite as much but you are adding more weight. Life is too short to shortcut on bindings.

Life is too short for reading the same post twice...biggrin.gif

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My understanding was that the Z12ti was the one with the cracking heel plate (I'm a proud owner).  The regular z12 has a stronger heel track, and the demo binding I assume has a completely different track. Anyone know different? I'm not qualified to answer your basic question, though. 

post #5 of 5

I have both bindings...

The Z12 are installed on my Mustang and it is the bindings I had most problem with and have problem thrusting...

I know the skis are not made for bumps but if I just go do a little very slow and gentle tour in the bumps, you can be sure one of my skis is gonna pop...is it the bindings? the rigidity of the skis? Don't know... The tech at my shop think of a relationship between stiffness and foward pressure and told me I shouldn't go into bumps period with these skis...

When I use them for what they were made, There is no problem... Can carve medium and big gs turns  and go high speed no problem... but sometimes, while skiing at high speed, I think about the releases in bumps and... gulp....

 

p.s. so wich one is with the cracked heel??? Would like to know...eek.gif

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