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Alta early tracks program - $100 for an hour of skiing before lifts open with a private guide - anyone done it?

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Has anybody done this on a powder guide? It starts at 8:30 and you have until the lifts open at 9:15 to yourself. How was your experience?

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$100/hr? Sounds like a real rip-off to me. Much cheaper ways of getting fresh turns in UT. And can you ditch the guide? If you're paying to access a mountain of untouched powder before anyone else has a chance, what do you need a guide for? Give me the guide once 90 percent of the mountain is tracked out. 

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We do a similar "First Tracks" program at Snowbasin.  Every guest I have had the pleasure of sharing it with said it was worth every penny!

 

JF

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We do a similar "First Tracks" program at Snowbasin.  Every guest I have had the pleasure of sharing it with said it was worth every penny!

 

JF


Those folks have a lot of pennies!

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I think it is more about value than cost.

 

How much would you pay for a heli lift?

 

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For 300 Euros, a group of four persons can get a guide for the entire day in Chamonix. They will help you find leftover powder if there is any. I didn't do it on this trip but plan to do so next time.

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Pulled trigger and did it - was totally worth it. Will definitely do it again. The $ / lap compared to the cat skiing I've done was approximately half the cost. Plus I had a very good private instructor/guide all to myself. It was a splurge but a small one compared to what cat skiing and heli. And skiing the temple of Alta with fresh snow, completely untouched virgin runs and nobody else on the mountain (except for a few other client/guide combos) was amazing. 

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I think it is more about value than cost.

 

How much would you pay for a heli lift?

 

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Everyone puts different value on powder. Money too, have different "value" to different people.

 

Some would just skin up to have untracked. Others pay to be heli'ed up, for a pretty pile of pennies.

 

For those who decided to pay, they already did the calculation that it's worth it. As long as the "guide" don't screw up and let them to re-frozen crud, it'll simply confirm it's "worth it".

 

Kind of like asking if first class seat on a flight is a good value or not. The extra space is a good value for those who value it, rip-off for those who don't. 

post #9 of 13

Most people can find powder stashes themselves and don't need a guide. If you didn't know the mountain I could see it as almost being worth it, but the price of $100 is pretty expensive.  Personally I'd rather save that money and put it towards a cat skiing trip. at_nyc said it best.

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Everyone puts different value on powder. Money too, have different "value" to different people.

post #10 of 13

Many early/first tracks programs just stick to the groomers.  Aspen's pretty much does, but then, it's free.

Revelstoke's is $52 and you get a muffin and supposedly a 45minute head start.  But from what I saw, most of them were just completeing their first run on Stoke when I got there.

 

I just don't see Alta letting you ski Rustler or any of the other hallmark runs before the general opening.

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At Snowbasin it works out pretty well for the guest.  On a powder day once the runs are cleared by snow safety, we can usually stay a step ahead of the general public for at least a few runs.  Sometimes, avoiding the frenzy is priceless .

 

 

The other tracks are patrollers.

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JF

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Honestly I would feel like a scumbag loading while the diehard first chair types stood in line.
 

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Honestly I would feel like a scumbag loading while the diehard first chair types stood in line.
 

That's another thing that I don't like about it. As if regulars aren't paying enough already with their $90 lift tickets, $1000 season passes and $3000 vacations, they get (potentially) screwed out of fresh snow so the resort can squeeze more money out of them. Creates an unnecessary "paid powder class," imo, though I guess those programs are small enough that it really doesn't matter in the real world. 

 

And 4ster, "frenzy"? Maybe once a year (like that ridiculous Sunday back in February), but "frenzy" and Snowbasin don't usually go together. But you know that better than anyone wink.gif . 

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