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Is Look Pivot 14 right for me? How should I mount my bindings?

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I am 5'6", 155lbs and I will be 43 this month. I generally ski bumps aggressively all day (Mary Jane, live in Colorado) unless I am practicing swing turns or wedges in the groomers. I am fairly advanced, I put in 22 days this year. I am good enough to get random compliments from strangers, but not competition level good. I finally learned how to ski stacked after 2 mogullogic clinics and I have been taking on pointing my tips into the bumps for absorption and speed control. This lead to a crack directly underfoot through the lamination, the metal plating, the metal edges, and the core of my 2 year old Atomic Smokes. I just purchased a set of 157 demo Hart F17s and had them keep the rental bindings since they maxed out at my normal 9.5 DIN setting. Would a pair of Look Pivot 14s be a good fit for me?

I never considered gear below my boots mcuch since skis always felt disposable (last 2 pairs cracked by rocks). I just purchased a cheap intermediate pair on sale. But this last crack had me thinking a bit more about how the physics of the bindings interacts with the flex of the ski. And since I purchased a real set of mogu l skis, I figured it might be worth a set of bindings designed to stretch with the ski flex to protect my investment a bit (and my aging still fully healthy knees). This has me investigating the Look PX 12 and the Look Pivot 14.

I know all the die hards would tell me to get the 14, but is that perhaps overkill for me? I can't see myself increasing my DIN setting. While I am likely to start using more absorption in my mogul technique, I don't go to terrain parks, and I don't really ever get air more than 1 foot (no tricks). So the 14 seems marketed as a freeride binding while the 12 is more aimed at racing? Which one is better for mogul skiing? Would a 14 be too burly for me? Why don't they make a Pivot 12?

On a similar topic, where should I mount the new bindings? The "new" way seems to be a bit forward, but is that mainly for jumpers? Is that actually a detriment for pure moguls?

Thanks for any relevant advice,
post #2 of 10
You are five six, one fifty five, and ski a nine point five DIN? Do you have tiny feet? Didn't Look at a chart, but that sounds pretty high. Just trying to understand the whole picture.
post #3 of 10

First of all welcome to Epic.

 

The PX and Pivot have different Rears.  This applies for all the 12, 14, 15 and 18 models.  In addition to further muddle the waters the 15 and 18 models have different toes as well.

 

I'm a few years older, a few pounds heavier and definitely taller asnd ski the same DIN setting, but I would recommend the 14's,   I actually now sking PX15's because I prefer the metal toe.  I originally bought the 14's and switched to the 15's because of the toe and that is more of personal preference than the functionality of the binding.

 

All said and done, go with the 14's, build a little more ruggedly than the 12's and will better serve your (ab)use.

 

As to mounting, I'll leave that answer to some of the others on this site.

 

Good luck

post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

You are five six, one fifty five, and ski a nine point five DIN? Do you have tiny feet? Didn't Look at a chart, but that sounds pretty high. Just trying to understand the whole picture.

A fair question. I generally get my skis back from the shops at what seem to me to be ridiculously loose settings. I guess a type I skiier with my stats (I should add, a boot of 295mm, 9 shoe size), gets set to 6.5 sometimes! When a shop does that, I can't even make it down a groomer gently without my skis coming off, so I then crank them up another 1 din to 7.5, they still come off on groomers, but now if a bit aggressive. So I crank to 8.5, they seem fine on groomers, but come off on the first bump I hit. I gently crank to 9, seems a bit better, but comes off still too soon. At around 9.5 I am very pleased. I am always happy when they do come off, and never feel like they should come off earlier.

So I asked the shop the last time I rented, and they said a type III skier with my stats would be an 8.5 and a type III+ would be 9.5, so this seems on. I also just checked here http://www.dinsetting.com/ and got a 9.5 for my stats. So I don't think it is too aggressive. I certainly don't want to be macho, that is why I often go through the motions of slowly cranking up the binding from a lower setting to be sure that they aren't too tight.
post #5 of 10

Martin,

 

Based on your reply.  Go with the 14's and consider the  Pivot 18's as they go from 8 to 18 and the toe is metal.

post #6 of 10
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So I ordered the pivot 14, any thoughts on the mount point?
post #7 of 10

I would suggest about 73cm from the tail, that should be about 2cm plus of center. 

 

Pivot 14 would be the binding choice for you. Remember, you will need the narrow brake. Most shops only stock the 95/115/130mm Pivot's. I have narrow brakes that I would be willing to swap you for a narrow version. 

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Is that position for jumping, will it help if I only care about bumps and not jumping (and no parks)?
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by MartinFick View Post

Is that position for jumping, will it help if I only care about bumps and not jumping (and no parks)?
That position is for bump skiing.
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Thanks
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