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Is It a Hellbent Trigger Moment?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Great deal on these, but they're only in a 179. I'm about 175 cm and 79 kg (that's about 175 pounds). I ski other skis (I've got Wateas, Coombas and Line Influence 115s) on the short side, usually around 175-179. I would probably look to take HBs to BC for treeskiing at some point. Thoughts? 

post #2 of 11

If money were no factor, would you look at those skis? kinda' symetrical, don't you think? not very current idea anymore, except for the jibbing crowd.

post #3 of 11

The Hellbent a jibbing ski? Um no. For tree skiing the 179 will be fine. You will have plenty of surface aria for flotation and very quick in the turn initiation. I ride the 189 and love it. I ride on more open big bowls and find it stable yet still quick in the turns. Great Ski! 

post #4 of 11

The Hellbent is an obsolete design. Obese, fully rockered, and floppy is no way to go through life.
 

post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by SVmike View Post

The Hellbent a jibbing ski? Um no. For tree skiing the 179 will be fine. You will have plenty of surface aria for flotation and very quick in the turn initiation. I ride the 189 and love it. I ride on more open big bowls and find it stable yet still quick in the turns. Great Ski! 


from the k2 website: "...the ultimate powder ski for floating and tricking...."  And don't say "..um.." if you don't know what you're talking about.

 

yeah, it's fine, I guess, but there is so much better available now, and on sale for the most part. Would like to see the OP on a more fun ski.

post #6 of 11

Um Um Um Um..... I have worked at a K2 dealer for over 19 years. I own the ski. I think that would qualify me as someone who know what they are talking about. For a great deal why not? Because you don't like it. By the way Jibbing is hitting rails, grinding ie. jibbing! Big back country booters is not jibbing. Get off your hi horse. 

For tight trees a soft floppy ski is a ton of fun. Pushing around a big metal ski in the trees can be a bit much for some skiers. No reason to jump on my ass for giving an opinion. To call me uneducated about the subject... UM......

post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by SVmike View Post

Um Um Um Um..... I have worked at a K2 dealer for over 19 years. I own the ski. I think that would qualify me as someone who know what they are talking about. For a great deal why not? Because you don't like it. By the way Jibbing is hitting rails, grinding ie. jibbing! Big back country booters is not jibbing. Get off your hi horse. 

For tight trees a soft floppy ski is a ton of fun. Pushing around a big metal ski in the trees can be a bit much for some skiers. No reason to jump on my ass for giving an opinion. To call me uneducated about the subject... UM......

You really went from one extreme to another with no thought of the in between. And being a K2 dealer you would know that they are discontinuing the Hellbent. There are reason for that. Reason number one....it's an obsolete design relying on pure girth for performance.

post #8 of 11

I agree that there are now skis most of us would consider "better" designs. But at the right price, it could certainly be fun for the right person. And the 179 is a better choice for most folks than the bigger one. I personally have no issue with a fully rockered ski. OTOH, I agree that K2 has fallen behind the curve with their approach to taper (or virtual taper) - and not just with the Hellbent.

 

Personally, I'd rather use a GPO or  Protest or Bent Chetler or Rocker 2 or Boomerang, etc for the kinds of things I'd use a Hellbent for. But again, for the right price or the right user - what the heck...and yes, I know some of those are bidirectional and some uni...for the amount of switch skiing or playing around I do, no matter...

 

While there are skis I'd rather have - the Hellbent is still actually a better all-around ski (let alone a powder ski)  than most old school designs of any width. Just sayin'

post #9 of 11

If he is getting a great deal why not? I know its not moving forward. Is that the only reason anyone ever buys a ski? I never said it was the only option but it can be one if the price is right. And no thought? He is looking for a tree ski for BC. This can be used for that. Its a fun, playful and lively ski that is maneuverable in tight conditions. He didn't ask to list every ski ever made that can be used for tree skiing, He asked about the HB and I answered that it is a fun ski that will work for what he is looking for.  

post #10 of 11
Is the deal better than the Start Hause sale items?

K2 makes great skis, they work fine if not exceptionally well, but their bases peel like oranges when you hit a rock.

The HB tail is a hooky beast I did not like at all in tight spots like trees.
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 

For obvious reasons I can't buy from Start Haus. Thanks all for comments, I think I'm going to pass. 

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