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2014 Gathering: Mammoth/Squaw Dates: MARCH 24-28 2014 - Page 6post #151 of 2642/16/14 at 10:04amThread StarterTony, There will be no relocating to Kirkwood.
Gear mentioned in this thread:post #152 of 2642/16/14 at 2:39pmpost #153 of 2642/16/14 at 8:27pmpost #154 of 2642/16/14 at 9:01pmpost #155 of 2642/17/14 at 12:03pmQuote:And right now much more terrain is open than there was that year in mid February.
Feb. 14, 2014:
Pct. of Normal
Pct. of Area Open
Feb. 14, 2012:
Pct. of Normal
Pct. of Area Open
Feb. 14, 2014 was just before President's weekend, so some terrain may have been held back to open then. Nonetheless, we are now reading that it will not snow for at least the next 10 days, so once again snow preservation will be key. Mammoth and Kirkwood are good for that, Squaw and Alpine not so much.Quote:I think it's a bit premature to relocate.
I agree, and in my own case I will go to Mammoth and decide where to drive from there at the last minute. I'm guessing that is not so easy with a large group. So it's not inappropriate to be considering contingencies farther in advance.
Last year the dry winter had reduced Squaw to 59% open at the end of March despite 279 inches of upper mountain snowfall, mostly in November/December. With a thin snowpack the skiing will be highly dependent on what happens the week or two before the meeting.
Nobody has to mess with the airlines this time. Lodging decisions can easily be held off until late in the game. If people want to ski marginal conditions vs. a fully open area just because 2 days of lift tickets might be cheaper after flying across the country to ski, that's not a decision that makes much sense to me.post #156 of 2642/17/14 at 12:52pm
You should update your stats to 2/17 for comparison because a lot has changed. Heck, Alpine starting spinning Sherwood yesterday and it didn't run until the end of March in 2012.
Also, you can't always quantify everything with statistics. Right now Squaw / Alpine is in MUCH better shape than it was 2 years ago. It's not just about what trails are technically open, it's about the coverage. That 5 foot wet sticky storm did wonders. Even before this last mini storm I skied a line in the Shirley chutes I wouldn't have dared go near back then.
Yes, it's going to be a bit warm with no snow (other than a dusting perhaps) over the next 10 days, but there's also a good chance we'll get another couple big storms over the next 5 weeks. The experience at Squawlpine will be just fine in time for the gathering.post #157 of 2642/17/14 at 1:25pmpost #158 of 2642/18/14 at 7:33amQuote:That 5 foot wet sticky storm did wonders.
Up high I'm sure that's true. Headwall, Siberia, Granite Chief, etc. I would question what one can do on KT with the lower mountain getting only 10 inches plus a lot of rain. Midweek, the upper terrain should have enough for us if the weather is at least somewhat cooperative between now and the Gathering.
My comments were prompted by what I read here on Epic about rain up to 9,000 feet last week and an expected junkshow over President's weekend.
I have not skied Squaw since 2002 and Liz never has skied Tahoe, so we have been looking forward to this trip. However, we will have a car and go elsewhere after Mammoth if conditions are not good.post #159 of 2642/18/14 at 7:44am
On Sunday 2/16, Squaw reported 1" new at base and 3" at 8200'. Alpine reported 5" and Kirkwood 8".
During big wet storm on Sunday 2/9 Squaw reported 0.5" new at base for a total for year of 48.5" (which includes 16" from Sept. and Oct.). At 8200' they reported 38" new and total for year of 133" (includes 47" from Sept. and Oct.). From http://squaw.com/the-mountain/conditions/snowfall-trackerpost #160 of 2642/18/14 at 7:54amNot just up high, Tony.
I don't want to repost the same thing I put in the Tahoe thread on the TGR, but the openings of Scott, Lakeview, and Sherwood - and the base-building storm that enabled that - have dramatically changed the prospects at Alpine at least. The Scott/Lakeview side was terrific on Sunday, and yesterday, Sherwood was in prime form - all my favorite lines skied at their best, except Powerline, which had been farmed for snow. As you know, one of the great things about Alpine is that when the mountain is fully open, it features sufficiently different exposures that if you know where to go in the conditions, there is enjoyable skiing to be had.
Obviously, we don't know what the next five weeks will bring. But even without a miracle March, I am far more optimistic about the prospects for the Gathering than I was even a week ago.post #161 of 2642/18/14 at 9:00amQuote:
And a bunch of us ski there every week, so people will just have to take our word for it. Those of us who know our way around could take a group out at Alpine right now in particular and I guarantee everyone would have a blast and find plenty of challenge. ;-)post #162 of 2642/18/14 at 11:00amThread Starterpost #163 of 2642/26/14 at 10:15pm
I just did a quick review of this thread but was unable to find what i was looking for: a list of which resorts we will be gathering at on which days as well as meeting time and location each day.post #164 of 2642/27/14 at 4:32amQuote:
Hi DanoT, I don't think meeting times and locations have been determined. The only update to the following that is in the first post is that Demo Day is being planned for Thursday at Alpine, many thanks to Phil, which probably means Friday is Squaw.
DAY LOCATION/EVENT MONDAY MAMMOTH TUESDAY MAMMOTH -OR- JUNE MTN* WEDNESDAY MAMMOTH THURSDAY MAMMOTH -OR- SQUALPINE/START HAUS PARTY FRIDAY MAMMOTH -OR- SQUALPINE/CHEZ ZIGGY PARTY
*June Mtn. might or might not be open and we will be leaving it open
I plan to be at Mammoth Tues/Wed and Alpine on Thurs with my son who will be celebrating his last Spring Break from Cal Poly - San Luis Obispo as he is on schedule to graduate in June, four years after graduating high school. He has returned to skiing after only snowboarding for about 10 years. He started skiing at 3. We will probably ski one of the three So. Tahoe ski areas on Monday on our way to Mammoth.
Edited by tseeb - 2/27/14 at 4:56ampost #165 of 2642/27/14 at 10:38amThread Starterpost #166 of 2642/27/14 at 1:59pm
I have a two for one for Squalpine that I would like to find somebody to share with my son on Thursday 3/27 at Alpine (during the Gathering - edited to correct month - Alpine only made it one day after 4/27 last year). If you want to ski Alpine for 1/2 the walkup price, the first to let me know gets it. Please don't flake on me, especially at last minute. I already have two free days and I'm half-price after that for me from MCP.
Last year, when I went to Mammoth in May, I found a good deal for one day on craigslist and used a ski with a friend for another. At ticket window, I found that Mammoth gave other area passholders the same price as ski with a friend. May not be the same this year, but worth looking into and make sure you bring your other pass. I don't know why all ski areas don't give other area passholders a break. They could be at home for free, but are spending money to go to your place. Diamond Peak has one of the best deals like this $35 most days and $45 around holidays.
Edited by tseeb - 2/28/14 at 4:00ampost #167 of 2642/27/14 at 4:23pm
I will repeat again that I can get up to 12 bring-a-friend tickets at Mammoth. Each BAF can be for up to 3 days at $69/day.
This weekend's storm should open up most of the terrain that didn't get enough coverage from the storm 3 weeks ago. I expect "normal" ski conditions at Mammoth from after this weekend through the Canyon/Eagle closing 3rd weekend of April. I expect close to full operation for the Gathering with winter snow on the upper mountain even if it does not snow again after this weekend.post #168 of 2642/27/14 at 6:44pmpost #169 of 2642/27/14 at 7:24pmQuote:
I also have almost a dozen BAF's at Mammoth that I can offer up for the group.post #170 of 2642/28/14 at 9:13ampost #171 of 2642/28/14 at 1:36pmpost #172 of 2642/28/14 at 2:46pmpost #173 of 2642/28/14 at 2:48pmpost #174 of 2642/28/14 at 7:00pmQuote:
Will not know for sure until they open up the top , which might not be until Monday.post #175 of 2643/1/14 at 6:47am
I'm figuring out lodging for Mammoth (I know, I'm a procrastinator), and so I am wondering:
Has the Gathermeister picked out morning meetup times and places? Not the exact details, but enough to know which entry and whether we can ski to the meetup if we start somewhere else.post #176 of 2643/3/14 at 9:08pm
I will be staying at the ski house in Mammoth where my son is a member. it is busy on the weekends but lots of room for our scheduled time there Sunday, Monday and Tuesday nights. Tseeb and his son will be staying with us Monday and Tuesday. There is room for more at the bargain price of $20pp per night. It is a dorm type room with bunk beds and a pellet stove and you need to bring bedding or a sleeping bag.post #177 of 2643/4/14 at 5:33amQuote:Originally Posted by Tony Crocker
I will be staying at the ski house in Mammoth where my son is a member. it is busy on the weekends but lots of room for our scheduled time there Sunday, Monday and Tuesday nights. Tseeb and his son will be staying with us Monday and Tuesday. There is room for more at the bargain price of $20pp per night. It is a dorm type room with bunk beds and a pellet stove and you need to bring bedding or a sleeping bag.
I'm interested and will gladly pay the $20/night but I am not interested in dorm accommodation as I am a snorer. However I would be interested in sleeping in my truck camper in the parking lot. I would need access to a 20 amp electric plug-in to charge my camper batteries as I assume running a generator in the parking lot would not be appreciated.post #178 of 2643/4/14 at 8:19am
Parking at the ski house is tight, and I'm sure there are no speical electrical outlets. Mammoth has an RV park just before you get into town, and I suspect that is where you want to be for your electric connection.post #179 of 2643/4/14 at 9:23amQuote:
I have been in that RV park, nice paved spaces with hookups, hot showers, huge hot tub and a pool
We can hold the second gathering vote in that hot tub, its that bigpost #180 of 2643/4/14 at 10:05amQuote:
you planning to go to the Mammoth days?
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