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Yep.  Most folks moved to Colorado and came from warmer weather states, and it doesn't snow that much in Denver anyway.  That's why so many are bad snow drivers.

 

 

 

You should see California drivers first time it rains.  Zzziiinnggg.  (Flatlanders, I mean.)

post #302 of 314

Even though it happens the same time every year, the first few snow falls of any amount causes havoc around town, as if it was the first time it ever snowed.

post #303 of 314
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But more icy roads. Which is a brilliant tradeoff since snow has tons of traction.

Not really. Wet snow has very little traction. Heavy traffic or warm temps. melt Snow and creates Ice. MgCl melts snow but leaves a bad film and is determinately to vehicles.  Just learn to drive would be the answer.

post #304 of 314
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Not really. Wet snow has very little traction. Heavy traffic or warm temps. melt Snow and creates Ice. MgCl melts snow but leaves a bad film and is determinately to vehicles.  Just learn to drive would be the answer.

We don't have wet snow wink.gif
post #305 of 314
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Not really. Wet snow has very little traction. Heavy traffic or warm temps. melt Snow and creates Ice. MgCl melts snow but leaves a bad film and is determinately to vehicles.  Just learn to drive would be the answer.

We don't have wet snow wink.gif


We usually travel from the rain zone into the snow zone heading into the mountains, and there's an intermediate area I think of as the "slime zone" where you take your life in your hands every time.  It's just above the snow level line where the surface becomes wet ice, pounded down by vehicles and made extra smooth because it is not yet entirely ice.  Snow tires make it a little better, but it's white knuckle time until you get above the line.  Mercifully, it's usually not very far between the rain and snow zones, but sometimes if you hit it at a flat spot it can last for miles.  Yuk.

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We don't have wet snow wink.gif


Go ahead rub it in. Nothing like 1-2 feet of Slop that yanks you around.

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Originally Posted by mowmow View Post
Nothing like 1-2 feet of Slop that yanks you around.

Makes a real skier out of you.

post #308 of 314
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Originally Posted by Posaune View Post
 

Makes a real skier out of you.


I was referring to driving but yeah that too.

post #309 of 314
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Makes a real skier out of you.


I was referring to driving but yeah that too.


Sometimes it makes a skier out of you when you're driving.

post #310 of 314
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Originally Posted by mowmow View Post
 

Not really. Wet snow has very little traction. Heavy traffic or warm temps. melt Snow and creates Ice. MgCl melts snow but leaves a bad film and is determinately to vehicles.  Just learn to drive would be the answer.

Not to mention what it does to skis and ski bindings on ski roof racks:nono: 

post #311 of 314
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Originally Posted by NayBreak View Post

It's also a case of broke people taking beaters into the mountains. All the threads here about 2WD being just fine don't help, either biggrin.gif

I had a "beater" in college, a 1987 FWD Plymouth Horizon hatchback. I put studded Snowtires on all 4 wheels and it did very well in the snow. I passed many 4wd SUVs stuck in ditches on the side of the road because they had "all season" tires. Of course now I have a 4wd Sequoia with snow tires for the winter and I love it, and I'll always buy 4wd for my ski trips but my little fwd never let me down.
post #312 of 314

Just thinking how we are debating which 4 wheel drive system is best.  I recall at one point way back in the day deciding the Audi with the inside controls that allowed you to lock or unlock the centre differential was best, but I couldn't afford it.  I had to make do with a two-wheel drive open differential car most of the time (although one car had a slightly seized  crown gear that helped a lot), positrac or limitted slip was a luxury when I borrowed someone else's car.  I still don't have a 4x4.

 

2 wheel drive is fine, unless there are hills involved.  Most roads to ski resorts involve climbing grades, and corners that limit how much momentum you can carry around to the next grade.  That's where any 4x4 system is way ahead of the 2 wheel drives. 

 

All season tires are fine if you won't be driving up or down hill, through deep snow, or on ice or in slush and will be driving much more slowly than you do in  the summer. :D

post #313 of 314

I was at the local Slowvo Dealership the other day and spoke to the Regional Sales Mgr.  Guy told me Volvo is trying to bring a diesel/hybrid combo out for 2016. They want the hybrid part for city mileage and the diesel for on the highway.  I would be interested in an XC60 or 70 with that set up.  Time will tell.

post #314 of 314

This will be my first season without my truck, but I'm sure my Fusion Sport AWD with Nokian winter studded tires will do fine.  If i need i'll take my GF's truck on those dumping weekends, although it's a pig on gas.

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