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post #1 of 9
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hey all, I wanted to hit the forum to get some outside opinions on what skis I should get into.

 

I am an intermediate skier that sees 90% east coast hard pack with a trip up north or west twice a year. I have always used demo's but I am ready to make a move and get into a really nice setup.

 

my usage consists of hitting the park, aswell as fast carving on hard pack so I need a twin tip ski that can do a little of everything. What should I be looking at? I want a badass setup that I can grow into as I progress.

post #2 of 9

Most of the stiffer high-level park skis will be ok on hardpack provided that you aren't hitting too many rails (they will kill your edges). My Line Stepups were pretty solid on eastern boilerplate before I took them to the rails, as were my K2 Extremes (though neither of these skis will be available for 2014).

 

A twin-tip with a waist of around 80-90mm will be decent for all-around east coast skiing/park. You also have the option of getting a symmetrical ski (bindings center mounted) or a directional ski (usually mounted further back) - depends how much park you ski and on personal preference.

 

Line, K2, Armada, Rossignol, Atomic and Volkl all have decent park/all-mountain skis in their lineups. Which ski is best for you depends on your skiing style (how much park you ski/how you ski/how aggressively), as well as your height and weight.

 

Are you buying skis now (end of season sales) or are you gonna wait for next year's models to come out in the fall?

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Originally Posted by TripleBlack View Post

Most of the stiffer high-level park skis will be ok on hardpack provided that you aren't hitting too many rails (they will kill your edges). My Line Stepups were pretty solid on eastern boilerplate before I took them to the rails, as were my K2 Extremes (though neither of these skis will be available for 2014).

 

A twin-tip with a waist of around 80-90mm will be decent for all-around east coast skiing/park. You also have the option of getting a symmetrical ski (bindings center mounted) or a directional ski (usually mounted further back) - depends how much park you ski and on personal preference.

 

Line, K2, Armada, Rossignol, Atomic and Volkl all have decent park/all-mountain skis in their lineups. Which ski is best for you depends on your skiing style (how much park you ski/how you ski/how aggressively), as well as your height and weight.

 

Are you buying skis now (end of season sales) or are you gonna wait for next year's models to come out in the fall?

 

Thank you for a good post. Ill take your post point by point,

-  I dont see much time on the rails. Not that I am not interested in them, but my experience level is not up there yet so I will not be purchasing ski's with rails in mind..this time around lol

 

-  the Very small advice I received from a local buddy's ski shop was to get around a 90mm waist. he recommended the Line prophet 90's

he has them new for 300 ski only and on demo with bindings for 200. I believe he told me they were the previous models

 

-I am looking to purchase in the next few weeks with the sales. I am planning my first trip to tremblant and want them for it. I have been using the K2 impact this season as a demo rental and enjoyed them but want to get more into park riding as well as hard bomb runs on hardpack. I would consider any ski in the 300-500 range

 

can someone recommend specific ski's?

 

 

thanks

post #4 of 9

I don't think you would go wrong with the P-90 especially the demo ski for $200, good ski that holds well on the groomers and and Line makes a pretty rugged ski . I've had that ski and enjoyed it.

post #5 of 9

I can also vouch for the Prophet 90, it is a very fun ski for the N East. The 200.00 price makes it a no brainer. If it falls through or the demos are really trashed, 300.00 for new + the cost of a Marker Squire or comparable is also a good deal. If that falls through, check out the Nordica El paco. They are much lighter and much more playful than the P90, but give up some dampness and a little speed because they are free of metal. They are full side wall giving them surprisingly good edge hold and are very stable at speed on afternoon crud. They have a moderate amount of early rise in the tip and are equal to the P90 in fresh snow float and can be skied a little easier than the P90, or in my opinion just as hard. I can not comment on either ski's park performance other than some jumps and other trailside features, which I would say the El paco shines because it is noticably lighter and more lively.

 

good luck, have great spring season

post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by james1990 View Post

 

Thank you for a good post. Ill take your post point by point,

-  I dont see much time on the rails. Not that I am not interested in them, but my experience level is not up there yet so I will not be purchasing ski's with rails in mind..this time around lol

 

-  the Very small advice I received from a local buddy's ski shop was to get around a 90mm waist. he recommended the Line prophet 90's

he has them new for 300 ski only and on demo with bindings for 200. I believe he told me they were the previous models

 

-I am looking to purchase in the next few weeks with the sales. I am planning my first trip to tremblant and want them for it. I have been using the K2 impact this season as a demo rental and enjoyed them but want to get more into park riding as well as hard bomb runs on hardpack. I would consider any ski in the 300-500 range

 

can someone recommend specific ski's?

 

 

thanks


The Prophets sound like a good choice then. I've never tried them but a patroller at my hill skis them and he likes them a lot. They're definitely not full-on park skis but should be alright for hitting jumps and skiing switch.

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

thanks for the thoughts,

 

So I went to my local Ski Stop in Long Island on the LIE service road today. They had a great selection and the guy that helped me was great and helped me with all my questions. They even had the K2 Impact's there so I was able to compare the Ski's to the impact's that I most recently Demo'd.

 

Here are the ski's he recommended:

 

Atom Theory

Line Prophet 90's 

Volkl Kendo

Line Bacon's

 

I went ahead and got the Sir Francis Bacon's from Line. I spent more than my budget but I have heard so many amazing reviews on them. They seem to be the perfect fit for the type of riding I plan to do.

 

I also went with the High Five boots from Full Tilt. I liked the 3 piece design and the wider front.

 

 

what do you guys think about my choices?

post #8 of 9
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Originally Posted by james1990 View Post

 

I went ahead and got the Sir Francis Bacon's from Line. I spent more than my budget but I have heard so many amazing reviews on them. They seem to be the perfect fit for the type of riding I plan to do.

 

what do you guys think about my choices?

Bacons for 90% east coast hardpack? Huh?  That was a recommendation by an eastern ski shop?

 

The Bacon is a cool ski and I've ridden it in 8-10 inches of powder and on soft groomers back to the list.  It is very light and spinny, with a modern center-mount position, so it would migrate to the park well.   But it wouldn't be my choice for a one ski quiver in the east by a long shot.  Even less for a self-described intermediate spending 90% of the time on firm groomers.  There must be some additional information that you aren't telling us.

 

It is the one ski on your list that doesn't go with the others.  It does have an awesome top sheet.  But you were more on the right track with the P90 - but if you are a smaller, lighter guy, the Bacons would be a great  eastern quiver ski, soft days, powder etc. . . .  YMMV, but IMO the Bacons are too light and don't have enough bite for firm snow conditions - on piste or off. If you are looking for a directional twin, maybe a Nordica Soul Rider or Volkl Bridge would be a bit more practical, but neither would be my first choice for 90% eastern groomers.

 

Re Boots, if they fit you did fine.  Fit trumps all - although I am not sure I'd trust a boot fitter who is recommending a Bacon as an eastern hardpack ski.

post #9 of 9
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Originally Posted by james1990 View Post

thanks for the thoughts,

 

So I went to my local Ski Stop in Long Island on the LIE service road today. They had a great selection and the guy that helped me was great and helped me with all my questions. They even had the K2 Impact's there so I was able to compare the Ski's to the impact's that I most recently Demo'd.

 

Here are the ski's he recommended:

 

Atom Theory

Line Prophet 90's 

Volkl Kendo

Line Bacon's

 

I went ahead and got the Sir Francis Bacon's from Line. I spent more than my budget but I have heard so many amazing reviews on them. They seem to be the perfect fit for the type of riding I plan to do.

 

I also went with the High Five boots from Full Tilt. I liked the 3 piece design and the wider front.

 

 

what do you guys think about my choices?

You are 2/3 complete, when finished you will have an awesome setup. Between now and next season pickup a pair of sub 90 intermediate to adv twin tips.

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