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Help please, Kung Fujas or go different?

post #1 of 8
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Hi all!

I spent the last season in Andorra skiing and working.

I believe that my level has become pretty good during the season.

Last week i rented a pair of 1.69 K2 Kung Fujas for a couple of terrific pow days.

Had the best time all season and really felt that these skis lifted my skiing up a level.

I was going to buy this pair but the store only had 1.79 so i didnt go for it in the end.

Im 5.6 and 160lbs.

Before i decide to buy these online i would like to know if anybody can recommend similar models to check out. I was told the Armada TST are good and pretty much similar.

Any other suggestions to check out?

Thanks for the help!!!

post #2 of 8

What terrain do you usually ski, and what terrain do you want the ski to work best in?

 

I have an older version of the Kung Fu, and would rate it as a ski that does many things well, but nothing great. Pretty decent on groomers but not a ripping carver by any means, decent on bumps (but less so as mine are 189), decent in powder, but kinda rough in crud.

 

If you are looking for a ski that you mainly want to rip in powder and do decent in groomers, look at something like an S7, bent Chetler, Salomon Rocker 2 or other skis with a 5 dimension shape (tapered tip and tails, rockered tip and tails, sidecut and camber underfoot). Most of these will ski deep snow and crud with great float and very very very fast smear turns in deep snow (great for tight trees), and perform somewhere between passable and good on groom/bumps, etc.

 

For more hard snow skis, I really like the Volkl Kendo as an all-mountain ski that will RIP on hard snow and still be decent on deeper days. 

 

I would keep trying more skis before settling on the Kung Fujas. They don't suck, but chances are you will find a ski that skis better at what you like doing most while still being a good choice for conditions on the rest of the mountain.  

post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the help. I mostly ski powder whenever the mountain allows it! Enjoy skiing between trees as well. The reason i need them to be all mountain and not pure freeride is because they will be my only pair of skis.

post #4 of 8
Thread Starter 

any other suggestions?

post #5 of 8

I have those same Fujas, they are more suited for soft conditions. If you want to carve trenches on the hardpack look at other skis. I'm looking for a pair of Kendos myself. Or E88's, Bushwackers, Bonefides... etc etc. But I'm running into paralysis by analysis... there are so many good all mountain skis out there.


Edited by asp125 - 3/27/13 at 9:08am
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Originally Posted by guytz View Post

Thanks for the help. I mostly ski powder whenever the mountain allows it! Enjoy skiing between trees as well. The reason i need them to be all mountain and not pure freeride is because they will be my only pair of skis.

 

If you like skiing powder trees, I would definitely look at a 5 dimension ski.  It completely changes the game compared to the Kung Fujas (I have the 2008-2009 Kung Fujas (95 waist and rockered tip and tail vs. today's 102 waist) and 2008-2009 Obsethed (105 waist, rockered tip and tail), so I have a lot of time on skis pretty much identical to the newer Fujas.

 

I just picked up a pair of Bluehouse Maestros http://bluehouseskis.com/snow-skis/rockered-skis-maestro-173.html  Its a 5 dimension ski that steers a lot towards the powder side of things- a BIG rocker profile on tip and tails and flat underfoot- NO traditional camber at all.  Even so, it does decently on hardpack (I've had them an rained on cut up and refrozen slush and never lost an edge all day) but are not railers- its takes work to lay down an agressive carve.

 

The big advantage of the 5 dimension skis is that the tip and tails will not catch on a pivot turn in deep snow or crud.  This allows really, really, really easy fast turns and smears to dump speed in tight trees. On a typical twin-tip or conventional shaped ski, pivot turns in deep snow will punish you as the tip or tail catches and pulls a ski away from you, and you are left with being forced to ski at a higher speed than your comfort zone to allow the ski to arc turns, praying you have enough space to cut  a big enough turn to lose the speed in the trees. Not my cup of tea- what really happens in that situation is I get scared, start skiing backseat, and make matters really worse for myself.

 

Skiing this type of ski over the Seths and Kung Fus, the additional confidence I had allowed me to pick up about 5-10 mph in the trees over what would be my normal speed, and feel much better doing so, knowing I can dump the speed and turn on a dime if needed.

 

Most manufacturers are making 5 point/5 dimension skis- K2 is one of the few that seems behind the times, although they are starting to move the fattest part of the tip and tails back a bit on their new skis.

 

I really think the S7, and several others in that size range, can be a completely legitimate 1 ski quiver for those that see soft snow fairly regularly (ie Rockies and West Coast). I really think you owe it to yourself to take some demos of this type of ski and see what you think.

post #7 of 8

DPS 112 are still my favorite pow ski. I went from the 190 to the 184 this season for Steamboat trees and they are simply the best pow ski I have ever had in the trees; bar-none. Quick, nimble light excellent float and down right fun on soft groomed.  Even skied out piles are a blast. 

post #8 of 8

i have 2 year old kung fujas... 102s... 

 

for europe they have been great in powder - (About half way)

 

 

in that trip i can carve and fly down piste and then bumps etc... love the skis... only time i struggle is when i change from my race skis to them as they feel solo fat but you wouldnt have to worry about them... 

 

for utah i hated them there... i have the 179 and i am 189 tall and about 220lbs or 100kg ish... having said that leave for utah with only my kung fujas tomorrow... 

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