Originally Posted by guytz
Thanks for the help. I mostly ski powder whenever the mountain allows it! Enjoy skiing between trees as well. The reason i need them to be all mountain and not pure freeride is because they will be my only pair of skis.
If you like skiing powder trees, I would definitely look at a 5 dimension ski. It completely changes the game compared to the Kung Fujas (I have the 2008-2009 Kung Fujas (95 waist and rockered tip and tail vs. today's 102 waist) and 2008-2009 Obsethed (105 waist, rockered tip and tail), so I have a lot of time on skis pretty much identical to the newer Fujas.
I just picked up a pair of Bluehouse Maestros http://bluehouseskis.com/snow-skis/rockered-skis-maestro-173.html Its a 5 dimension ski that steers a lot towards the powder side of things- a BIG rocker profile on tip and tails and flat underfoot- NO traditional camber at all. Even so, it does decently on hardpack (I've had them an rained on cut up and refrozen slush and never lost an edge all day) but are not railers- its takes work to lay down an agressive carve.
The big advantage of the 5 dimension skis is that the tip and tails will not catch on a pivot turn in deep snow or crud. This allows really, really, really easy fast turns and smears to dump speed in tight trees. On a typical twin-tip or conventional shaped ski, pivot turns in deep snow will punish you as the tip or tail catches and pulls a ski away from you, and you are left with being forced to ski at a higher speed than your comfort zone to allow the ski to arc turns, praying you have enough space to cut a big enough turn to lose the speed in the trees. Not my cup of tea- what really happens in that situation is I get scared, start skiing backseat, and make matters really worse for myself.
Skiing this type of ski over the Seths and Kung Fus, the additional confidence I had allowed me to pick up about 5-10 mph in the trees over what would be my normal speed, and feel much better doing so, knowing I can dump the speed and turn on a dime if needed.
Most manufacturers are making 5 point/5 dimension skis- K2 is one of the few that seems behind the times, although they are starting to move the fattest part of the tip and tails back a bit on their new skis.
I really think the S7, and several others in that size range, can be a completely legitimate 1 ski quiver for those that see soft snow fairly regularly (ie Rockies and West Coast). I really think you owe it to yourself to take some demos of this type of ski and see what you think.