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post #31 of 41

If you would like to have something to practice in the moguls it could be to align you're skies to the slope, and getting you're unweighting movement like a heelkick instead of getting it right up in front of you.

Right now the focus could be to work with the heel kick and to acuallt arch your lower back, this will increase speed :) and the fact that CoM moving streight down in the same angle as the slope.

But it's just if you want to be more of a mougle racer :)

post #32 of 41
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Anilson:

If you would like to have something to practice in the moguls it could be to align you're skies to the slope, and getting you're unweighting movement like a heelkick instead of getting it right up in front of you.

Right now the focus could be to work with the heel kick and to acuallt arch your lower back, this will increase speed :) and the fact that CoM moving streight down in the same angle as the slope.

But it's just if you want to be more of a mougle racer :)

 

I am aware that my mogul skiing style is different than a modern-day mogul racer, but that's the way I like it smile.gif I've developed my style according to my own choices and I don't think I would like the way I look or feel as much doing it another way.  Thanks for the idea though. 

 

pdiddy:

YO Blake I recognized some MT EVAN shots in there bro,  I"M SO JEALOUS!!!!!  Are you gonna hit it again this memorial day?  damn, I just watched it again, man I miss that place!!!    

 I wish I could take a trip out to hit some BC with you this summer but I have to go to Alaska again (twice)   :P    Maybe next spring I'll take a tour with you on Evans and holy cross or something...   In the mean time I can steer you towards another gem if you want.  Mt Beirstadt.... pm me .  

And thank you for putting some bumps from the WInterpark/Jane on there, I have been telling people they are the best bumps on earth and no one understands, but now they will.   People make bumps and excellent people make excellent bumps...  outstanding bump skiing! 

 

We might do it again.  We found that we really like Corona Pass though (shot 1 in the video is Corona along with the pond skimming shot).  It'd be cool to do the Holy Cross next spring or any other time.  I have hiked Bierstadt in the summer, but not for skiing... I'm a little reluctant to hike all that way with skis on my back for that one :)  Maybe I should though, I'll think about it.  You're right about Mary Jane... I don't think that people realize how big and gnarly the bumps are if they haven't skied it.  My friend Mark (in the video) skied some natural mogul runs with some current world cuppers there last year and he said that they had quite a bit more trouble on the natural terrain than on their manicured courses (in fact apparently they kept blowing out of some lines).  I've witnessed the same thing.  I love Mary Jane we certainly don't have the 7 inch consistently spaced and sized moguls there like many competition runs have :)  Thanks for watching the video, I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

post #33 of 41

The skiing looks great to me, and I'm not in a position to offer anything on that front.

 

As for the video, if you want to make more impact on YouTube, there are some simple things you can do to make it more catchy.  Music has been mentioned.  Also, I'd suggest some more professional looking titles.  The red labels don't look too slick.  Next, I think many ski videos benefit from some increased brightness/exposure.  Basically, snow should look white, not gray.  If the interesting stuff is in the shadows, make that snow white and let other stuff over-expose.  Some scene transitions (dissolve, wipe, fade to black/white, etc.) wouldn't hurt.  Finally, edit ruthlessly.  Without saying anything about the quality, it's hard to get someone to spend ~8 minutes with a video.

 

I hope this comes across as constructive.  That's the intent.

post #34 of 41

Nice to see some good all mountain skiing.

 

I have a philosophy that if you a good at racing and good at moguls then you have the moves for everything in between.

 

As Skidude mentions the skills are the same regardless of what type of skiing you are doing but the tactics as well as how you blend the skills will change for different situations. Taking into consideration the racers goals and the conditions they are skiing, in general they tend to move laterally a little more to reach high edge angles whereas in the bumps the vertical and fore/aft movements tend to be more pronounced.

 

On the steeper stuff where you need to control your speed (or slow down) you are creating a much larger steering angle through pivoting... whereas in racing they are often trying to gain speed (eg: less pivoting more edging).

 

In all cases good skiers show mobility to place the BOS to support and guide the COM... They usually create the turning effort with the lower body and control edging through angulation.

post #35 of 41
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Thank you very much for the analysis skinerd smile.gif  That is indeed the kind of response I was asking for. 

 

Thanks to Xela as well... I figure I'm playing to a really specific audience (the people who like to see good skiing, but not big air/powder stuff in most modern ski movies).  I'm not sure if I'll do the video differently next time, but maybe I'll do a compilation video with music sometime or something, that thought had crossed my mind. 


Edited by Ronin - 3/28/13 at 9:24am
post #36 of 41
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Originally Posted by Blake Saunders View Post

 

I am aware that my mogul skiing style is different than a modern-day mogul racer, but that's the way I like it smile.gif I've developed my style according to my own choices and I don't think I would like the way I look or feel as much doing it another way.  Thanks for the idea though. 

 

 

We might do it again.  We found that we really like Corona Pass though (shot 1 in the video is Corona along with the pond skimming shot).  It'd be cool to do the Holy Cross next spring or any other time.  I have hiked Bierstadt in the summer, but not for skiing... I'm a little reluctant to hike all that way with skis on my back for that one :)  Maybe I should though, I'll think about it.  You're right about Mary Jane... I don't think that people realize how big and gnarly the bumps are if they haven't skied it.  My friend Mark (in the video) skied some natural mogul runs with some current world cuppers there last year and he said that they had quite a bit more trouble on the natural terrain than on their manicured courses (in fact apparently they kept blowing out of some lines).  I've witnessed the same thing.  I love Mary Jane we certainly don't have the 7 inch consistently spaced and sized moguls there like many competition runs have :)  Thanks for watching the video, I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

Bierstadt, is a great run, unless you ski down what you hike, then its a bit lame, windblown and thin.   If you are up there again, hikers left is a ridge line that you follow up to the top, below that ridge is a great run all the way from the top to the bottom.  When you get to the top drop off to the left, Once at the bottom you do have to bushwack around to get back on the path, (about a half mile).    In other words you end up pinched between Evans and bierstadt.      Evans also has some secret stashes, but honestly nothing is as awesome as just skiing down the face and hitching a ride back up....    

post #37 of 41
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When I hiked Bierstadt in the summer, I did see a cool 'big run', so to speak through some rocks.  You're probably right that it would be worth it.  You were right about Evanssmile.gif

post #38 of 41

Did not read any of the replies so Im unbiassed. Your skiing is very very good but I think your question is a bit rediculous. Show us some carving on a groomer and you will get much better information. I also did not watch the complete video. Just a bit of it. Nice filmwork and good editing and production. I think that your segment starting at 2:20 shows strong racing skills. I can almost pickture you on a racing track. You would be a good racer. A couple of things that stand out to your advantage is very good core skills. Your mogul skiing is awsome and you ski offpist anywhere at any speed. Which brings us to your best skill in ski racing: you ripp and that you have to do more than anything in ski racing.

 

You have all sorts of ski racers. However, its a well known fact that the two best ski racers in the world at the moment, Ted and Marcel, both have a strong all mountain skiing background.

post #39 of 41
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tdk6:
Did not read any of the replies so Im unbiassed. Your skiing is very very good but I think your question is a bit rediculous. Show us some carving on a groomer and you will get much better information.  I also did not watch the complete video. Just a bit of it. Nice filmwork and good editing and production. I think that your segment starting at 2:20 shows strong racing skills. I can almost pickture you on a racing track. You would be a good racer. A couple of things that stand out to your advantage is very good core skills. Your mogul skiing is awsome and you ski offpist anywhere at any speed. Which brings us to your best skill in ski racing: you ripp and that you have to do more than anything in ski racing.

One of the replies you skipped lists links to videos with times of groomed shots. 

 

Thanks for all of the compliments smile.gif

post #40 of 41
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Originally Posted by Blake Saunders View Post

One of the replies you skipped lists links to videos with times of groomed shots. 

 

Thanks for all of the compliments smile.gif

 

Ok, found it.... yes, you sertainly can ski like a racer. The biggest difference comes once you get on a racing track. Especially on race day where you have one shot at a course you did not ski before. Carving on a groomer is totally different in that sence. Not being able to turn when and where you want is the hard part. If it means anything to you I can give you a high score on your "racing technique" skills. I see no reason for any ski racer to be putting youre carving skills down.

post #41 of 41
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Cool smile.gif  Thanks smile.gif

 

I do think that I probably ski a little bit different now (on the groomed and stuff) than I did in those older clips... but it's probably a tiny difference.  I'm sure they're still relevant. 

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