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Thanx for the input. Actually own the Brahma and Dynastar Powertrack at 88, as well as Nordica Hell and Back, but am itching to grab something in the high 105-110 range for getting more into the powder skiing. Not looking for a one ski quiver. 61 year old at 6'5" 235 lbs. Again thanx for the input.

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Thanx for the input. Actually own the Brahma and Dynastar Powertrack at 88, as well as Nordica Hell and Back, but am itching to grab something in the high 105-110 range for getting more into the powder skiing. Not looking for a one ski quiver. 61 year old at 6'5" 235 lbs. Again thanx for the input.
I'd get the 193 at your size. I'm 6'4 and 215, and usually go for the 190+ sizes when they are available. For big, heavy guys a mid180s powder ski is going to be too short effective edge wise unless its a big mountain ski.
The blister review is worth a look, too. If two 180lb skiers describes the tips and tails as soft, at 50lbs heavier the 185 isnt going to be ideal at all.

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2nd-look-nordica-el-capo
Edited by clink83 - 11/29/15 at 8:45am
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Thanx for your input. Yes, I'd read the Blistergear review of the Nordica El Capo, and was surprised to see Jonathan Ellsworth describing the  tips and tails as relatively soft. He says the El Capo is for:

 

"Advanced and strong intermediate skiers who like to carve short, quick, slalom-style turns on groomers, but who are also looking for a solid ski (with metal) that isn’t terribly demanding at slower speeds, and is easier to turn in tighter trees and big bumps than a Belafonte. They will  appreciate this ski’s flex pattern." Ellsworth also mentioned that "the flex patterns of the 185 and 193 felt very similar".

 

So, who's opinion to believe when it comes to recommending this ski for an advanced intermediate who is 6'5", 235 lbs? I guess it's one of those skis that I'll just have to demo next time... but it'll probably be the 192 cm.

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The El Capo does not have overly stiff tips nor tails.  It is very solid underfoot and has exceptional dampening.  However the 'short quick slalom-style turns on groomers' comment from Blistergear is a bit odd IMHO.  I'd say the ski's natural desire is mid to long radius turns.  Short turns are possible, but it would rather run and cruise through longer arcs.  

 

While it's far to wide too be a serious contender for a hard snow or front side ski, it does hold an edge on hardpack very well (for it's width...).  I use it on most soft, shallow powder or variable conditions days.  I've skied it in 40cm with no ill effect but if you want a pure 'powder ski' I'd choose something wider in your preferred shape and flex pattern.  I think it excels in variable conditions and chopped up powder.  Or on days when the fresh powder scrapes away, revealing hard pack underneath. On a midweek resort powder day I'll take something bigger (freshies last longer, especially if the highways close!).  On a weekend when it gets tracked out fast I know the El Capo will be a great choice. 

 

I've got the 185's and don't normally wish for them to be longer.  I'm sure the 193 would be fine for me as well.  I'd just go faster!  I'm 6'2", 240 pounds, moderately aggressive but slightly broken and busted up.  The 185 El Capo is longer than my 190 Volkl Explosives.

 

-Bruce

 

Edit: Other skis of similar or even lesser width are superior in pure powder due to flex and or binding placement.  For example, compared to other skis I've owned, the Sidestash had a long rockered tip that planed up with the greatest of ease, while the narrower Coomback didn't have much rocker but it had a smooth round flex and the tip easily found the surface.  


Edited by CanmoreBruce - 11/29/15 at 6:27pm
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I'm thinking exactly like Bruce on this... Own the 185 and find it plenty of ski for my 6';215 pounds...The  El Capo is like a tank, very damp... and the only time I felt that maybe I could understand more by what they meant at Blister about tip and tail too soft is when I was coming down in worked out heavy snow and decided to go a little more to the side where the snow was still untouched... Before I knew it, I was lying on the snow, asking myself what had just happened... It was like if the skis had give up on me...

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