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Help - Is 155 cm SL cheater skis too short for a 5'8" 145 lbs make?

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Soon starting with masters GS and SL training before the season is over. I'm an advanced skier but never raced before. Have 175cm Head i.Speed skis.

Thank you in advance for help!!!
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It could work to get you started ( you havent said wich model) but if you plan to continue you will want the race stock so unless it is cheap/free/ you already have the cheater you could find yourself buying twice.  I have some atomic 158 race stock slaloms available. PM me if you are interested

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Thanks I'm considering the Volkl Racetiger SLs. What year are those skis?
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see this thread http://www.epicski.com/t/86063/volkl-racetiger-sl-155-race-stock.  Hilarous how many times the thread got revived, I might be willing to sell them back to UP he seems to have an active market for the ski!

 

I am 5'6 and 182 decent skier, always learning,  as a raceroom ski and not a 'cheater" (whatever that means)  they border on too much ski for me.   Lots of fun on hard snow athough I've only rarely run gates.  I had a base grind this season and they still look about the same!

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Originally Posted by nochaser View Post

Thanks I'm considering the Volkl Racetiger SLs. What year are those skis?

2012

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Originally Posted by ScotsSkier View Post

It could work to get you started ( you havent said wich model) but if you plan to continue you will want the race stock so unless it is cheap/free/ you already have the cheater you could find yourself buying twice. 

^^^^ This. And in all honesty, I started with same assumptions, have found that normal FIS spec skis work fine even if we're not threats to bump someone off the U.S. team. Might want to stick with brands that are on the flexier side. At your size a 155-158 WC SL would be about right. And a shorter women's spec GS, although the new sidecuts look unfriendly to Masters, might go for an older new model, plenty around.  Cannot say for sure, not having tried the new.

 

One bit of confusion: Are you running both SL and GS this spring? Usually the SL's are later in the season, so wondering if your question is actually directed at SL. If so, then IME any decent race carver will work fine for basic movement training away from a course, or using brushes. Including your Heads. But definitely pick up a real SL, not a cheater, for actual gates, whether training or races.

 

And you'll likely need (or be required to have, depending) a race helmet that can take a chin guard. Hand guards good idea too. Unless you plan to replace your googles every week or two, collect bruises on face and hands for bar ice-breakers. Shin and arm guards maybe less urgent cuz you don't want to get that close until you've got other mechanics in order. SL is a contact sport. eek.gif

post #7 of 15
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, I'm just checking out and catching up with the tail end of the local masters training before the season is over soon. I dumped my super long 20 yrs old Olin skis due to cracked base and so just bought the Head cheater GS. I like them a lot but they don't turn short and quick. So with all things considered..starting training, and need short radius skis, I decided to pick up SL skis. My math tells me this but not sure if there is any practical merit...175 cm(my Head GSI), 155 cm (SL), and buy a 3rd pair later somewhere around 165 cm for all day skiing. Or 175 cm and 160 cm SL skis. I'm just thinking a lot if options now but not sure what would be the best path. Any feedback is helpful. Atomic skis are in my list too. Thanks again.
post #8 of 15
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Scot, are you a retailer? do u have a number I can call you to talk about the Atomic SLs? I pmed u also. Thanks
post #9 of 15
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Skier j I actually have read your thread which came up on my search for 155bin the forum. I like the current outgoing model or the one before and ill probably buy some of those if I were to buy volkls. Thanka
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Originally Posted by nochaser View Post

Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, I'm just checking out and catching up with the tail end of the local masters training before the season is over soon. I dumped my super long 20 yrs old Olin skis due to cracked base and so just bought the Head cheater GS. I like them a lot but they don't turn short and quick. So with all things considered..starting training, and need short radius skis, I decided to pick up SL skis. My math tells me this but not sure if there is any practical merit...175 cm(my Head GSI), 155 cm (SL), and buy a 3rd pair later somewhere around 165 cm for all day skiing. Or 175 cm and 160 cm SL skis. I'm just thinking a lot if options now but not sure what would be the best path. Any feedback is helpful. Atomic skis are in my list too. Thanks again.

Only comment is that I'm confused about your all-day math. Seems to me, unless you just want an excuse to buy more skis (not that any of us would ever do that) that your 175's are your all day ski, these should be great on firm to normal snow, and a decent technique trainer for either event. Good mechanics are good mechanics. Then you need a real SL. And you can use your Heads for actual GS next fall, decent number of Masters racers use cheaters, while you get some experience. Not clear why a third ski would be needed right away, or why it would be so short and presumably so narrow. You could easily manage a 170-175 cm 85 mm softer snow ski. Is this a small place local place near LA that is mostly firm/icy groomers? (Grew up in LA.)

 

Put another way, less may be more for a while. 

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Skier j I actually have read your thread which came up on my search for 155bin the forum. I like the current outgoing model or the one before and ill probably buy some of those if I were to buy volkls. Thanka

that was not an offer to sell, but a statement that 155 is NOT too short for you, in my opinion.

post #12 of 15
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Thanks. Yeah I like the less-is-more approach. I was just a little bit overwhelmed by my Heads after I first skied them two weeks ago. However, I felt really good about them on the masters runs today...possibly my new boots are starting to break in.. You're right, the Heads can/will be my all day on piste skis for a while. And yes, I do need SL skis. The masters trainer said I should get 155s with soft flex. One of the racers strongly recommended getting a few year old brand new Dynastars...$300 without bindings. I think I'm now leaning towards 155s. Either Volkl racetiger SLs, Atomic SLs, or perhaps Dynastars..
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Scot, are you a retailer? do u have a number I can call you to talk about the Atomic SLs? I pmed u also. Thanks

smile.gif  No, just a (too) frequent recycler of top quality race skis at reasonable prices!  As many here can attest to....    (And never seem to end the season on the same skis I had intended racing on at the start of the season rolleyes.gif)

 

Just heading home from a week on the road so will get some pics to you over the weekend

post #14 of 15
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Thanks for the offer. I have my eyes out for volkl racetiger SLs so we'll see.
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2011 Dynastar Speed Omeglass WC SLs in 155 cm in their way!!!!
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