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http://www.earnyourturns.com/16197/ski-review-dynastars-cham-hm-97/#more-16197

 

I read this today and thought it was the perfect description of what the Cham line is all about.  Great review and insight into what Dynastar's Cham line is for and who...

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http://www.earnyourturns.com/16197/ski-review-dynastars-cham-hm-97/#more-16197

 

I read this today and thought it was the perfect description of what the Cham line is all about.  Great review and insight into what Dynastar's Cham line is for and who...


That link is to a painfully poorly written article. awful. full of errors and false statements, weak information. The HM Cham and the Cham are very different skis; you should say what model you are talking about, and why one or the other.

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That link is to a painfully poorly written article. awful. full of errors and false statements, weak information. The HM Cham and the Cham are very different skis; you should say what model you are talking about, and why one or the other.

WTF?  Uh...it's HIS opinion.

 

As someone who has spent 100% of his days on the entire Cham line, I thought his review summed up what the ENTIRE line is about...perfect, could not of stated it any better.

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Just read it, seemed reasonably written given that it's styled for a contemporary backcountry site aimed at a mixed younger general audience. Definitely in line with what's been written elsewhere about these skis, including here at Epic. Can't follow Davluri's claims, since reviewer does specify models (mit pics), does state that the metal versions are different, and does have a factual basis for saying that the basic design and construction are similar within and across the two lines, save for the metal. Reviewer may overstate the uniformity IMO since the dimensions aren't precisely scaled up or down, and even if they were, scaling can foreground properties that we'd pay less attention to otherwise; a 70 mm carver isn't really the same ski as a 90 mm perfect copy of it. But like the comments about tips and so on, that's his take written for a particular audience.

 

Davluri's surliness has a subtext, if you read his other contributions over the last few months: First, no one can ever characterize a ski for someone else, since it's all hopelessly subjective and individualized. Unless he brings in his experience, which is god's own truth. So reviews are trash, just demo. (Certainly would free up a lot of Epic's bandwidth, besides.) And second, skis he likes are made for him personally, by little skiing gnomes in the Black Forest, triumphs of old world craftmanship and precision. The other guy's ski is vastly different. Even if it's the same line.  wink.gif

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I agree.  And on a related note, even if you could tell someone what a ski is like.....they don't!!  It's what most media-based reviews fail to acknowledge: how does it feel, how does it compare to the competition, lighter vs heavier skier suitability, and so forth.

 

Most (if not nearly all, except here on Epic) reviews talk about how good a ski is, or they spout off useless adjectives that can be applied to nearly any ski out there (ie-this ski is powerful, quick edge to edge, fast, stable, blah blah.  Those words can apply to 95%+ skis out there, it says NOTHING about that particular ski in question).  Further, most reviews are written by experts, by and large, in media (online and print) publications.  I would submit that ANY expert should be able to ski just about ANY ski and handle it.  So the comments then provided are utterly useless. 

 

This is why people around here (Start Haus, Dawg, etc) stand above.  At least they will tell you on the record not only what they think about the ski, but also who it's geared to, a breakdown of its pros/cons, suggestions on how it might be handled, comparison against its competitors on the market, and so forth.  This is utterly paramount to a ski review, and yet almost every single publication out there does NOT do this.

 

Lamesauce.

 

 

[/end rant]

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Well said, GB.  Kudos to all Epic's serious reviewers!  

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WTF?  Uh...it's HIS opinion.

 

As someone who has spent 100% of his days on the entire Cham line, I thought his review summed up what the ENTIRE line is about...perfect, could not of stated it any better.


I don't care if it's his opinion. if he can't express it, it's useless. there is so much to say about that ski and he didn't.  cause he can't.

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