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Best ski to improve your skill.

post #1 of 11
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To start I can already see that fighting words are likely to occur, here so some rules before the knives start to fly:

 

Hardpack

Groomed

Crud

Ice

NE conditions (sorry don't ski the west enough to have a fair outlook, though if anyone has extra skis, plane tickets etc for powder skiing for at least a month, I can be persuaded to change the thread....you know field testing and such...nudge, nudge, wink, wink).

 

During this past season I have lent my GS FIS ski to some individuals who thought they were pretty good (and so did I).  But I have quickly learned (and so did they) that a GS ski while able to do railway tracks on just about everything does have one other characteristic that often forgotten until you find it.

 

It is responsive, to every input or lack there of.  Make a mistake it bites you.  Lose focus it bites you.  Forget to give it direction rolling into a turn it bites you. Let your thoughts wander about food, it bites you.  This is the ski that will praise you if skied well with performance and hold like nothing else in the world, and instantly punish you if skied it wrong.

 

In that regard, I would suggest that a GS ski is likely the best ski to prove and prefect your merit as a skier.  Once you have perfected the GS ski anything else is easier as you still carry the fear of the bite and won't make those silly mistakes.

 

So my vote goes to the GS FIS ski, perfect it and all else just falls in place.

 

Have at it (nicely and with fun).

post #2 of 11

GS skis

SL skis

SL are much quicker to respond to those pesky little mistakes you mention.

post #3 of 11

To improve skills, could be. To acquire skill, probably not. A beginner given such unforgiving boards would have a miserable time, and probably go away and never come back.

post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 

GS ski I think.

post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by slipshod View Post

To improve skills, could be. To acquire skill, probably not. A beginner given such unforgiving boards would have a miserable time, and probably go away and never come back.

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Sorry I didn't mention you were already good when you did this.

post #6 of 11

I don't know about that.   I think a super-g ski is just as likely if not more likely to be unforgiving.

 

In my experience the best ski for learning is a shorter SL ski.  It responds very quickly to input, and let's you know what you are doing right or wrong.   The only problem with a SL ski is it is not designed for speed, and won't arc as smoothly if you push it past its designed turn radius and speed.  A good one won't complain and will still go where it's told, but compared to a ski designed for long turns at high speed, it's just not as good a feeling.

 

The GS ski of typical length and sidecut takes longer to start a turn and things progress more slowly.  It needs more speed before it pushes back, and doesn't give you as many turns per run.  It is also a little easier to recover on when fore-aft balance gets temporarily out of whack.  On the other hand skiing at GS speeds and above is more fun than skiing at slalom speeds for some people. 

It's a tough decision.

post #7 of 11

I would vote for the SL ski over the GS in part because I think that far too often you encounter conditions that do not let you ski a GS ski as designed.  i.e. not safe to ski the run at carved GS speeds due to crowds, etc.  I suppose it might be different if all your skiing was done on a closed course, but even then, skiing SLs has some of the advantages mentioned above and the fact that the less rhythmical nature of SL courses (compared to GS) pushes your skiing further .  Also, I think good SL skiing might require quicker response/reflexes that will carry over more into other areas of skiing (like moguls or trees).

 

Of course, the flip side of the argument might be that SL skis actually make it too easy to carve.  aka, it takes more skill to carve a GS ski into a medium radius turn than it does to carve an SL ski.

post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 

Ghost,

 

I think you may have got me on that one, Super G could be one up manship on the the GS ski.

post #9 of 11
I woul have to agree w GS ski as well!
post #10 of 11

Are you asking for the best ski to improve your skill or the best ski to measure it?

 

I would vote for SL as the best to improve and GS as the best to measure/test your skill.

post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
L&AirC I think what you said fits perfectly. SL to learn. GS to prove
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