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Fit guarantee interpretation and general advice

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long post but i wanted you to have the whole backstory for perspective.

 

Last year I was having a lot of problems with my boots and finally decided to go see a bootfitter to see what could be done. Essentially, he took one look at them and determined they were too big. I had been interested in trying a three piece boot but the guy at this store essentially told me I wouldn't like it and he kept trying to steer me into a more 'advanced' race-inspired boot which i kept saying i didn't want to do so eventually i left the store in search of another opinion and fitter.  My original boots were 29.5 Dalbello Avanti and on a trip out west i managed to try some FTs and some Kryptons.  Both were too narrow and would require work so i didn't want to get them on the trip but while there i was told by a few different shops that i was between a 28 and 27 shell.  Having loved the flex profile in both, when i returned home i decided to buy the Kryptons from a local shop.  Late last February I bought a pair of Kryptons.  I was still unsure if i should be in the 28 or 27 but when the fitter looked at my feet on the branock (sp?) device he told me 28 based on my width because it would take less shell work, which i ended up going with despite not doing a shell fit in both sizes only the 28s.  After a few weeks the shells were feeling quite a bit better but still not perfect.  another guy at the shop also had kryptons and raved about the ID liners in his making a big difference so i ordered those and had them baked in the summer just before a mogul camp in whistler.  while there i was still in a lot of pain from the width but my shop also has a place there so another guy there did some more shell work and i think he nailed it.

 

Fast forward to this winter (december) and i started to notice my feet sliding forward when i would have the buckles at a reasonable tension.  i ski quite aggressively in the bumps and noticed a lot of forward foot movement.  i took the boots back to the original shop and two other people there looked at them and told me they were too big and that one of the only things i could do is crank the middle buckle down more to keep me in the pocket.  i was also now having heel retention issues so they decided to add an extra set of J-bars a bit higher to help hold me down.  This helps with heel hold but still have issues sliding forward and i have recently started getting black toe-nails for the first time.  i have gone back a few times and most recently they added these pads to the front of the liner where it overlaps thinking that this may let me crank the middle enough to secure my foot without cutting off the circulation which was happening before.  This mod has actually helped a lot (i was very skeptical) but i am still having toe-bang occasionally...especially when i land backseat or on flats.

 

the last time i was in the shop i was killing time while they were working on the pads and i decided to shell fit a pair of 26 kryptons to confirm they were too small and i should infact be in 27s.  i was surprised to see that there was about 1/2 cm of room behind the heel in these too. Also, i originally wore red superfeet but switched to yellow for more room in the toebox. even still, i find that i prefer the boots with the toe buckle barely tightened (some runs it comes off on its own because it is so loose when flexed). is this a sign of a problem and are there any recommended solutions.  i hate to think the boot style will not work but would not be devestated if it ended up that way.

 

In addition to the toe-buckle question here are a few more: 1) should i press the shop to give me a killer deal on the correct size boots (ie. share the blame and compensation)? 2) if my foot measures about 28cm but i could actually fit in a 26 shell, does that mean it would work or should i stick to a 27?  3) will going to a smaller shell reduce the likelyhood of toebang or increase it? 4) does my wide foot actually play a role in the length in that there is a limit to the amount of stretching that can be done?

 

Thanks to all and open to any comments or criticisms.

post #2 of 3

1) should i press the shop to give me a killer deal on the correct size boots (ie. share the blame and compensation)?

maybe:  but that is between the shop and you.  Ask and see?

 

 

2) if my foot measures about 28cm but i could actually fit in a 26 shell, does that mean it would work or should i stick to a 27? 

odds are 27 is what you need.  5-15mm shell fit is the best bet.  We can't see your shell fit online

 

 

3) will going to a smaller shell reduce the likelyhood of toebang or increase it?

 

decrease:  your heel is held back, so wont slide forward, so wont hit the front of the shell.   This is assuming you are not in the back seat skiiing, and pushing your own foot forwards anyways.

 

 

4) does my wide foot actually play a role in the length in that there is a limit to the amount of stretching that can be done?

 

not really.  most shells can be made 5mm per side wider easly

post #3 of 3

we don't need to see your shell fit online.  If you measure a 28 you won't be leaving a shop with a properly fitting 26 Krypton.

 

Lou

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