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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

i am 6-1 260lbs intermediate i picked the skis up on craigslist for cheap i cant seem to carve like alot of skiers out there 103/65/90 the skis come up to my eyes and they seem narrow should i be looking for wider waitsted skis and longer ones

post #2 of 12

Welcome to EpicSki!  Would be helpful to know where you are skiing.  Also, how have you learned to ski?  Quite possible that your technique is more the issue than the skis.  Advanced skiers can carve on skinny, mid-fat, and even fat skis.

post #3 of 12

From the numbers you are likely on a short GS cheater ski, likely an advanced expert ski.  Assuming that they are tuned correctly the ski may currently be a lot more than you are used to.

 

That said, you are not likely committed enough (driving forward on the ski enough) to get them to carve nicely. 

 

Take a lesson or two, or ski with some very good friend and have them look at what you are doing.  With the amount of video available have someone take video of yourself and look at what you are doing wrong (different) compared to those carving correctly.  A good example of the commitment is my nephew had to learn to really dive into the turn on my GS FIS skis compared to his JR GS skis,  The lessons learned on the FIS ski, helped with his commitment on the JR ski.

 

 With you size and wt, skied correctly you will likely find these a blast.

 

Finally, if you list the name and model along with the radius of the ski, a better guess can be give of what may be happening.  Video really helps as well.

 

 

Have fun, ski hard, extend the limits.

post #4 of 12
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I am skiing in Wa the Pacific northwest , i havent had any lessons so its deffenately my skills or lack there of , i dive into my turnsand slide alot i see people going by on all edge and i say wow wish i could do that , i will have to get some lessons , but i think i will also get a rockered all mountain ski

post #5 of 12

Post a photo of the ski or at least  get us the brand and model info.  If you're on a GS ski it should be a little longer than up to your eye.  If it is a SL ski then the length is probably fine.  However, if you happen to have  a junior or women's model it won't hold well for someone 260 pounds or even someone 160 pounds.  If the ski is washing out and chattering around you might  have a women's or junior version of a race ski.  Not good for you at all if that is the case...

post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by oldschoolskier View Post

From the numbers you are likely on a short GS cheater ski, likely an advanced expert ski.  Assuming that they are tuned correctly the ski may currently be a lot more than you are used to.

 

That said, you are not likely committed enough (driving forward on the ski enough) to get them to carve nicely. 

 

Take a lesson or two, or ski with some very good friend and have them look at what you are doing.  With the amount of video available have someone take video of yourself and look at what you are doing wrong (different) compared to those carving correctly.  A good example of the commitment is my nephew had to learn to really dive into the turn on my GS FIS skis compared to his JR GS skis,  The lessons learned on the FIS ski, helped with his commitment on the JR ski.

 

 With you size and wt, skied correctly you will likely find these a blast.

 

Finally, if you list the name and model along with the radius of the ski, a better guess can be give of what may be happening.  Video really helps as well.

 

 

Have fun, ski hard, extend the limits.

 

 


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Originally Posted by Jimmyb View Post

I am skiing in Wa the Pacific northwest , i havent had any lessons so its deffenately my skills or lack there of , i dive into my turnsand slide alot i see people going by on all edge and i say wow wish i could do that , i will have to get some lessons , but i think i will also get a rockered all mountain ski

Stick to the lesson idea- I would much rather try to carve on a good GS cheater than a rockered all mountain ski.  If you get the right instructor, they can take a look at your skiing and your gear and be in a better position to give good advice than we can blindly on the internet without seeing you ski or knowing exactly what gear you are on.

post #7 of 12

Lessons are worth it.  Skiing is a technical skill; it's not intuitive nor obvious.  Friends make awful instructors.  Buy a lesson.  Do it again later for more information as you get used to skiing.  

Where did you get your boots?  The way the boots fit matters more than the type of skis you are on.

post #8 of 12

Jimmyb, welcome to Epic.   Where are you skiing since you live in Tri Cities.  It is really almost impossible to answer your question.  Without knowing how you ski and why you ski how you do it would be way overly presumptuous  to comment on your skis.   Lessons, ski advice from someone who is knowledgeable that skis with you etc.  Yes maybe fatter all mountain skis might be better but you aren't skiing the whole mt. yet I presume.   As you stated watching others carving bye is cool but might have nothing to do with the ski's but the motor.  So hold up on wasting your money on something unknown.  Wait till you know more and have a little more experience.

post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thank you for all the great advice i will take it to heart , mission ridge is our place of choice
 

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

just baught the new Atomik live fit 90 because i have sucj a wide foot
 

post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by Jimmyb View Post

just baught the new Atomik live fit 90 because i have sucj a wide foot
 

Welcome again, you have entered a life long experience.  You will meet life long friends, see winters wonders, be frustrated and elated with your skiing.  Skiing is something you can do until you drop.  Enjoy.

post #12 of 12

Jimmyb,

 

Welcome aboard,

 

According to your other post:

 

"I have a Elan xcarve 3d mono block 5.0 skis the # 103/65/90 i am 6-1 260lbs the skis come to my eyes and they seem narrow , i am intermediate and pretty much stay on the groomers looking to move on to a different ski and suggestions"

 

I'm not familiar with the ski but maybe someone else is.  In your profile you stated the skis are 173 cm.  

 

i think for your size the ski might be short, but if you are just starting out, shorter is better.  Especially when you start carving.  It is way easier to learn on a short ski.

 

Also, I hate to be a wet rag but feel I should bring up that carving takes a while to learn. Take a season to learn how how to ski well without carving.  It is a great skill to have and is needed.  You can't always carve and too many people fast forward past learning how to have a flat ski and rotary movements.  It will also make learning to carve easier.  It has many of the same components to it.  These are the foundation skills.  Embrace them.

 

it is very unlikely to learn to carve without being taught, and the ski you have sounds like it w designed for it.  Even has "carve" in its name.  Getting a different ski probably isn't going to help much.

 

once you understand how to do it, expect to spend a season or two getting good at it.

 

have fun,

Ken

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