Originally Posted by Do Work
to everyone scrunching their noses. It's as if someone just invented a lightbulb and the candle purists aren't interested.
I am the first to admit I wasn't impressed. I have gear from the early '80s the effectively does the same thing.
Heavier of course. But easy to tour in and easy to swap out when you pull your skins.
My original reluctance is I don't think the "idea" is the way to solve the problem.
"Problem" being tech bindings don't ski as well or offer the level of ski retention that a DH binding does.
I am sking in Tech Race bindings on half my quiver and would on all of it if I could afford the buy in. And they are only $500 or $600 a pair retail. The newest Scarpa and Dynafit boots offer enough boot for "me".
I understand that others want the advantages of a full race boot and a full race binding. And this is a good *short term* solution. Just as the plate binding shown above and I used for years was.
If it is truely all about the down, then the best answer is a helicopter, race boots and a DH race binding. If it is all about the up then hard to beat a skimo race boot and and a 140g tech race binding.
I walk past a set of Epoke skinny skis every day with 3 pins. Used that set up several times on Denali to get to 14K. My current ski mo set up weighs in at 9# total..skis, boots and bindings. Not a lot more than the Epoke set up did. But I can ski something like 90% of what I am capable of skiing on that Skimo gear. So the up is covered. That last 10% of terrain and conditions I have to be more careful in on skimo gear and where pure DH gear would make things a lot easier or just more fun is a enticing carrot.
Enough so that I am tempted to help fund this project. But then I start looking at what the current crop of DH boots weigh and worse yet what the DH race bindings weight even if they ae mounted to my favorite ski and I start thinking I would never take that set up on Rainier let alone out of bounds at the local SA. I'll stick to the 9/10# .boots, skis and bindings skimo rigs.
I see that one of the SI&I claims on the advertizing is a 10K foot ascent in a day of Rainier. Can anyone clarify if that is a one day ascent from Paradise which is a 9000 of gain one way.....or the route from Muir ot the summit and back which is a "10K' tour" up and back...on a 2 day trip.
Because as a comparison...if you are in a hurry to ski down Rainier...sure dh boots and skis might make it a little faster. But the current record on ski mo gear is 5 hrs and change ROUND TRIP. for a 9000' UP gain and a 9000' DOWN descent. And mid winter short one day skimo ascents of Rainier are common these days fro even mere mortals.
The real question I think is what is the "problem? Is it all about the DOWN or more about the UP?
Having toured enough in full on race boots and DH bindings..and even on occasion DH race skis (on Rainier amif) ....I know I have no desire to go back. To heavy gear no matter what the little added performance is.
As I said..nice short term fix (very nicely done IMO btw) and I admire the engineering and thought process involved. For a couple of hours I even thought about supporing the project. But for me....it is basically another bandaid to keep some bad technology up and running. That "bad technology" would be the current dh binding technology as a touring binding. I think supporting new technology like the BEAST or what ever comes next that will actually cure the problem.
I am surprised that Black Diamond hasn't swooped in and bought this idea and the technology already.
For the right guy/gal this system might well be the perfect answer. No question i was really tempted. It certainly would have been for me at one time in the past. The priorority them was "all about the down". And it is tempting to go back there...to the dark side . But I simply find the up more of a challenge now.
Edited by Dane - 3/24/13 at 12:12pm