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post #61 of 72
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post


absolutely false in every respect, the claimed ski brands and the whole idea of domination. BS., ignorance, and disrespect.


Revelstoke: 1st place: Drew Tabke - Praxis skis

Courmeyer: 1st place: Markus Eder - Volkl

Chamonix: 1st place: Drew Tabke - Praxis skis

Kirkwood: 1st place: Lars Chickering-Ayers - Praxis Skis

Fieberbrunn: 1st place: Silas Chickering-Ayers - Wagner Skis

Verbier; 1st place: Kevin Guri - Movement Skis

 

Overall Season Champion: Drew Tabke - Praxis Skis

 

Do you even watch FWT?

post #62 of 72
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Revelstoke: 1st place: Drew Tabke - Praxis skis
Courmeyer: 1st place: Markus Eder - Volkl
Chamonix: 1st place: Drew Tabke - Praxis skis
Kirkwood: 1st place: Lars Chickering-Ayers - Praxis Skis
Fieberbrunn: 1st place: Silas Chickering-Ayers - Wagner Skis
Verbier; 1st place: Kevin Guri - Movement Skis

Overall Season Champion: Drew Tabke - Praxis Skis

Do you even watch FWT?

Skier, not the ski.
post #63 of 72
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post


Revelstoke: 1st place: Drew Tabke - Praxis skis
Courmeyer: 1st place: Markus Eder - Volkl
Chamonix: 1st place: Drew Tabke - Praxis skis
Kirkwood: 1st place: Lars Chickering-Ayers - Praxis Skis
Fieberbrunn: 1st place: Silas Chickering-Ayers - Wagner Skis
Verbier; 1st place: Kevin Guri - Movement Skis

Overall Season Champion: Drew Tabke - Praxis Skis

Do you even watch FWT?

Skier, not the ski.
post #64 of 72
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Skier, not the ski.


No shit.....thanks for the insight genius. The point was the tools used were just as good.

post #65 of 72

After reading this I am now heavily considering ON3P skis for my new pair! 

post #66 of 72

I profess no substantive knowledge, but I had a nice chat on the chairlift last week at Jackson with a principal of Meier Skis from Colorado, which manufactures in Colorado and claims to source all of its wood from Colorado wood (mainly beetle-killed trees) and sources many other components locally.  http://www.meierskis.com/

post #67 of 72
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post


No shit.....thanks for the insight genius. The point was the tools used were just as good.

No problem.
post #68 of 72

If you're in Oregon and are looking for made-in-Oregon skis, ON3P (previously mentioned) and Deviaton (fairly new, maybe a year old or so) are worth a look. Deviation says their materials are "primarily sourced in the US", and I couldn't tell from ON3P's site where they get their stuff from. Both companies use DuraSurf bases, Deviation uses Black Locust/Ash/Basswood cores, ON3P goes with bamboo and carbon fiber. 

 

I have some friends who have demo'd ON3P skis and really dig them. 

 

I met the folks from Deviation at Mt. Hood Meadows about a month ago, and have demo'd 2 of their models. Both skied nicely, and I had an absolute blast on The Mode. I'm buying a pair and having custom topsheets done. The folks at Deviation are still trying to generate more buzz around their stuff (they do snowboards, too), and I think they are headed to Alta soon to do a demo day or something.

post #69 of 72
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Originally Posted by SkiSafe View Post


Skier, not the ski.

 

The folks on the FWT are all great skiers. And Tabke is rated the best. However, to ecimmortal's point, it is worth noting that the Praxis Great Pacific Octopus (aka GPO)  took 2 different skiers to first place finishes at 3 events. Only one ski and one brand occupied that first place podium spot more than once. So I'd say that taking first at three out of six comps probably says something - probably a lot in terms of an innovative small indy's ability to design and build skis. It should put to rest the notion that only the big guys can do this. If you know anything about Praxis, you know darn well Keith is not "buying" talent with a big team budget. And that's putting it mildly.

 

I could only find this on Facebook, but this ii an interesting little video they popped up in Dec when Drew and Keith were designing the GPO. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=3387532107203

 

 

It is further worth noting that Wagner was up there in first too. So US indies took 4 out of six first place finishes...

 

Honestly, I personally have no strict "made in the USA" policy. I'll buy what I consider the best skis. At the moment, Praxis tops my list. The fact that I can get my questions answered by the guy who designed the skis and runs the factory is a nice big bonus IMO. And a bunch of other American indies are definitely among the top players in terms of the intersection of innovative design and quality build. ON3P, Wagner, etc, etc. DPS (who is moving manufacturing...). Prior (yes - still North "America" wink.gif) is right up there. And despite some comments above - to my mind, Neversummer clearly turns out nice work for folks using that factory.

 

To my mind the really interesting question is why the innovation has been so geographically concentrated? Not 100%. But certainly highly concentrated...

post #70 of 72

"To my mind the really interesting question is why the innovation has been so geographically concentrated? Not 100%. But certainly highly concentrated..."

 

I'm not sure I agree with a geographical concentration. Praxis is in Tahoe, ON3P is Pacific Northwest, Goode moved from Michigan to Utah and the other builders are mixed around the US. It's not like one company spun off all the knowledge and talent.

 

Indies have advantages for pure performance. They can build a specialty ski that is not aimed at the lowest common denominator mass market. The Rossi "everyone can ski on this ski" philosophy is not optimal for the top performers. Hand finishing (or not stressing over the finish) can allow build techniques that can offer an advantage. And a personalized build is possible. Of course a winning ski does indicate that they are doing something right.

 

Eric

post #71 of 72
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I profess no substantive knowledge, but I had a nice chat on the chairlift last week at Jackson with a principal of Meier Skis from Colorado, which manufactures in Colorado and claims to source all of its wood from Colorado wood (mainly beetle-killed trees) and sources many other components locally.  http://www.meierskis.com/

 

I've spent a lot of time trying of Meier skis. Most models are Aspen and/or Blue Stain (beetle kill) pine, sourced from Colorado. For years, Matt Cudmore would make skis during the week and set up a tent at Sunlight on the weekend to demo. Most of the ski line is very light weight.  If I understand how things work over there now, Ted Enyon is the other principal, who supplied the money to establish a manufacturing facility. If I remember, I think they are turning out around 1000 skis a year, made in Glenwood Springs.

 

The Heritage Fat is a great ski. Think an S7, make it lighter and fatter with a really aggressive short turn radius. The result is an insanely responsive ski.

post #72 of 72

I got some High Society skis this past summer.  Got a great deal on them.  They have their own design, but they are made in the US.  Made in the same factory as Icelantic and Neversummer down in Denver.

 

The skis I got are the High Society 185 FR wide (122mm underfoot).   Rocker

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