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post #61 of 76
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Originally Posted by Artemat View Post

Sorry to hear that. I ski on the knee bindings myself and your case is alarming

 

I am surprised that the Kneebinding rep isn't here... 

No binding, ski, boot, garment will ever prevent all injuries. 
Unfortunately shit happens. Wrong DIN/forward pressure, faulty parts (boot and/or binding), freak accident, predisposition... there are a lot of possibilities.

post #62 of 76

Valli, 

 

I wish you a fast recovery. As to the knee binding, it worked fine for me when I skied without my ACL and works fine now after surgery. However, the more I learn and the more time goes by, my confidence in the product goes down. 

 

My binding was installed on gotama - mid fat 106 under the foot. It didn't seem to affect the way they worked, and just like you I know that there were times where they saved me from the injury. However, it takes only this one fall and boom there you go.... 

 

It looks like with you it did take "this one fall", so my thought now is that knee binding doesn't do what's intended to do - protect us skiers from ACL injury. 

post #63 of 76
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Originally Posted by jzamp View Post

No binding, ski, boot, garment will ever prevent all injuries. 
Unfortunately shit happens. Wrong DIN/forward pressure, faulty parts (boot and/or binding), freak accident, predisposition... there are a lot of possibilities.

Understood. Still alarming. I just had my ACL replaced in October. Don't want another one. 

 

Will I stop skiing on Knee Binding? No, some "protection" better that none. But for being "the only knee friendly" binding on the market with premium price, I was hoping not to see any torn ACL's with this brand involved. 

post #64 of 76
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Originally Posted by Artemat View Post

Understood. Still alarming. I just had my ACL replaced in October. Don't want another one. 

 

Will I stop skiing on Knee Binding? No, some "protection" better that none. But for being "the only knee friendly" binding on the market with premium price, I was hoping not to see any torn ACL's with this brand involved. 

 

As all the players have said, KB is designed to protect skiers from the most common ACL-tearing fall -- the rearward twisting fall (phantom foot fall?).  Other kinds of accidents have not been designed against, because, if I understand correctly, the engineering problems are immense.

 

You're not going to be protected from all ways of damaging your ACLs on skis unless you quit skiing.  And then you would remain at risk for the other ways of damaging your ACL, including tripping suddenly and landing wrong.

post #65 of 76
Thread Starter 

My understanding is that the Knee Bindings may help avoid injury in the rotational backwards falls so common in ski injuries (the "phantom foot problem." They don't provide any help in jumping type injuries, so I guess one bit of guidance that my accident can provide is that you can probably decrease your risk by staying out of the trauma park. I know I'm not going to be spending any time there after this, although I've jumped off small jumps many times before with no problem.  I have also jumped off small ledges down to interesting runs, also without problem, although usually at lower speed.  I clearly had some velocity here, as the tibial contusions indicate.

post #66 of 76
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Originally Posted by valli View Post

I think the question of waist width  on skis and the relationship to knee injuries is a very interesting one. Clearly there has been a huge jump in knee injuries in skiing since the popularity of shaped skis and modern boot design, both of which put more stress on the knees. I've been skiing on fat skis the past couple of years (Atomic Centuries), I don't know if that's been beneficial or not.  Anyone know of any research in this area?
 

 

I've seen some discussions and articles that indicate that FIS and USSA cited ACL injuries as a reason to dial back the sidecut radius of the competition GS skis from 21 to mid 30s(?).  Those are pretty skinny waisted skis.  So, it would seem to suggest that depth of sidecut is likely more of a factor than width of ski.

post #67 of 76
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

I think I warned you that those skis would inspire you to "Charge like Bull" 

RAWR!!


You are a BAD BAD influence! Man, Valli and I have way too much in common. We both have Black Pearls and we both ride horses competitively. Me thinks we need to meet one of these days!

post #68 of 76
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You are a BAD BAD influence! Man, Valli and I have way too much in common. We both have Black Pearls and we both ride horses competitively. Me thinks we need to meet one of these days!

Next season when she's all healed up, we'll plan on a meet up, perhaps at Mammoth. 

post #69 of 76

Yeah, 

 

When I got my knee issue, I figured that "trauma parks" are not my best friend. Once again, very sorry about your trauma. 

 

Best wishes,

 

Art 

post #70 of 76
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

Next season when she's all healed up, we'll plan on a meet up, perhaps at Mammoth. 

 


I would love that! I hope we are still living here! Heading up to Mammoth this Sunday for the week.

 

Valli, please to keep us posted on your progress and prognosis.

 

Oh, and I have my first horse show of the season 5 days after we get home from Mammoth. I am pushing all negative injury thoughts out of my head!

post #71 of 76

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post #72 of 76

Valli, how is the physical therapy coming along? Is the pain and swelling decreasing?

 

Hope you're doing okay!

post #73 of 76

Valli, I think I read in an earlier post that you had scheduled surgery.  How are you doing?  Wondered if you've started post surgery PT and how is your recovery going? 

post #74 of 76
Thread Starter 
I had surgery on April 4 with Dr. Robert LaPrade at the Steadman Clinic in Vail, CO and spent a week there recovering and doing PT before flying home to California. The injury was more complicated than they originally thought, and I'm glad I went to Colorado to get it treated. It turned out the ACL was completely ruptured, the lateral collateral ligament had a high grade partial tear tear near the insertion and was very stretched out, and as a surprise bonus, the medial meniscus also had a substantial tear. Dr. LaPrade replaced the ACL and the LCL with allografts, and he was able to stitch together the medial meniscus without removing any tissue. They had before and after pictures to show me post surgery, which was kind of cool. I have a wicked long incision down the outside of my knee for the LCL replacement, and several other smaller incisions.

I was very happy with both Dr. LaPrade and the postop care, and the associated Howard Head physical therapy center was pretty great. I've had a few other surgeries, and I don't think I've ever met such nice anesthesiologists or post-op nurses. They were very on top of pain control, and between the portable nerve blocks and the oral meds the pain was pretty well managed. They have a 24/7 hotline for pain management, and the anesthesiologists also came down the next day to the pt center when I was having trouble with the nerve block. I'll post more later about my hellish experience with TSA, but I survived.
post #75 of 76
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Originally Posted by valli View Post

I had surgery on April 4 with Dr. Robert LaPrade at the Steadman Clinic in Vail, CO and spent a week there recovering and doing PT before flying home to California. The injury was more complicated than they originally thought, and I'm glad I went to Colorado to get it treated. It turned out the ACL was completely ruptured, the lateral collateral ligament had a high grade partial tear tear near the insertion and was very stretched out, and as a surprise bonus, the medial meniscus also had a substantial tear. Dr. LaPrade replaced the ACL and the LCL with allografts, and he was able to stitch together the medial meniscus without removing any tissue. They had before and after pictures to show me post surgery, which was kind of cool. I have a wicked long incision down the outside of my knee for the LCL replacement, and several other smaller incisions.

I was very happy with both Dr. LaPrade and the postop care, and the associated Howard Head physical therapy center was pretty great. I've had a few other surgeries, and I don't think I've ever met such nice anesthesiologists or post-op nurses. They were very on top of pain control, and between the portable nerve blocks and the oral meds the pain was pretty well managed. They have a 24/7 hotline for pain management, and the anesthesiologists also came down the next day to the pt center when I was having trouble with the nerve block. I'll post more later about my hellish experience with TSA, but I survived.

So glad you went forward the way you did, and glad you're on the mend.  Do you know what kind of follow up visits you may have in Colorado, if any? 

How long until they think you'll be back to 100%?

 

As for the part in bold, I'll be getting ready for the follow up. popcorn.gif

post #76 of 76

Dear valli,   

So glad to know that you were in good hands at the Steadman Clinic — and that this phase of the process is well underway.  

Sincerely,  

Rick Howell

President

Howell Ski Bindings

Stowe, Vermont
 

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