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post #61 of 80
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I have a sort of weird request to make.     My TV has a search app, but the app is very primitive.     Could you put a tag in your uploaded video _titles_?    Something like 'worthskis' or 'worthMagics' ?

 

 

Oh man...  I will have to try to dig out my password and all that jazz for Youtube.  Haven't been on there since last winter haha...  Let me see what I can do.  Or wait...  Can't you just search by the current title?  

post #62 of 80
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post
 

I have a sort of weird request to make.     My TV has a search app, but the app is very primitive.     Could you put a tag in your uploaded video _titles_?    Something like 'worthskis' or 'worthMagics' ?

 

 

  Can't you just search by the current title?  

 

If I know what it is in advance, yes.   But if it's something common like 'magic mountain Dec. X' then it gets crowded out.

post #63 of 80
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Oh ok then try "March Madness Magic Mountain".  It was my first result.  :)

post #64 of 80

Hey all, not to spam it up, but we are submitting a build to production next Monday, and this will be our last build until March (Production guys are going on extended ski tour in January and February). PM me if you want to get a pair built up.

 

I will be up at the Midd. College Snow Bowl this Sunday, and will have skis with me if anyone wants to come make some turns. Rumors calling for nearly a foot to fall at the Bowl Saturday night....Here's hopin'!!! Woot!!!!

post #65 of 80
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Hey all, not to spam it up, but we are submitting a build to production next Monday, and this will be our last build until March (Production guys are going on extended ski tour in January and February). PM me if you want to get a pair built up.

 

I will be up at the Midd. College Snow Bowl this Sunday, and will have skis with me if anyone wants to come make some turns. Rumors calling for nearly a foot to fall at the Bowl Saturday night....Here's hopin'!!! Woot!!!!


Where did you hear that rumor, jeez woods off Sheehan could be in play, have to mount up the Humpbacks then, or play around on my Marcys. Did your demo day go at Stowe this weekend?

post #66 of 80

http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Middlebury-College-Snow-Bowl/6day/mid  was calling for 11 inches Saturday night on their forecast yesterday, now they say 3. I'm sticking with 11 :-)

 

Demo day at Stowe was great, though the snow was...ahem....firm. Lots of other great brands there, too, and still had several folks come up and say ours were the favorites of everything they tried. If we can get that kind of response on a bulletproof day, well, I'm happy!

 

See you Sunday Sb'er?


Edited by Lemming - 12/11/13 at 6:04am
post #67 of 80

Must bed the new math 3=11 ha ha, Good to hear got good response on skis on the firm stuff. Yeah I'll be there Sun. Did a couple laps today on opening day at the Bowl. Always feels good to be home.

post #68 of 80
These showed up in the mail the other day...



Like what I'm seeing. Let's get cracking.

Thanks Jason!
post #69 of 80
Thank YOU Hoss!! Mount 'em at -2cm from the dimple on the sidewall. Hope to catch you on the hill!
post #70 of 80

I checked these out when we went to Okemo in Ludlow, VT.  Adrian was happy to meet up with me and let me try them out.

 

I tried out the 168 length carbon stringer with some kind of light duty core that gave it a softer flex.  Not sure exactly what the core was although Adrian explained it.  I expected Gear Guy to remember it but he didn't.  I ran it down every run that was open from the Jackson Gore base.  For the most part it was firm hardpack squeaky snow with some icy spots and some light powder spots.  For such a wide ski, it was remarkably easy to drive and edged fairly easily.  With some more wide ski experience,  I feel like I could really get it more on edge than I did.  It handled ice very well.  There was one very icy spot where the ski chattered but would anyone really be planning to ski this on ice?  Its for powder!!!

 

I really like it... and yes... IT WILL BE IN PLAID!  How can you not take advantage of the custom topsheet option?

post #71 of 80
Thanks for giving us a try, billieryder! On your core question, the pair you tried has our Response core, which has a rounder, even flex pattern. Our Power core is stiffer underfoot, with a more stepped flex pattern. We spec the Magic with a flex of 8, that pair was built at a 7.5 flex, medium flex tip.

Hopefully that helps, and I can't wait to do a plaid topsheet!
post #72 of 80
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Hopefully that helps, and I can't wait to do a plaid topsheet!

 

 

Wow I like that idea!  Sounds like a lot of fun could be had with a VT theme.  

post #73 of 80

About to join you guys, my Magics were delivered early this week and are now being mounted up to some adrenalines. The custom top sheet option was appealing but ++ time and the design of the graphix. In the early 1980's I had a Lacroix monoski I did a black topsheet with pics of some brook trout, a large rainbow trout, and a macro photo of my fly design that I caught them on.

post #74 of 80
SR, I suggest mounting them 2cm back from the sidewall dimple. Enjoy!
post #75 of 80
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Just want to update this thread by saying that I have been on these skis almost every time I've been out since I got them at the beginning of last season and they seriously never cease to impress.  Even with a 2 season old tune I could still carve very efficiently on them thanks to their shape- just drive the tips and slash them into any turn- The angulation they allow you to achieve really does make a whole pile of turns available depending on your style and it's fun to me to try skiing the same line different ways.  I just seems like no matter what if your form is good and you drive the tips the tails will follow you anywhere and always be ready for your next initiation.  In any snow type, from cement to blower to refrozen broken glass crust and death cookies.    

 

 

Durability is also absolute tops.  I literally just got my first actual core shot just last weekend with them and I THRASH these with no hesitation in every condition Magic can offer which is saying a lot.   This one there was no stopping though- hit a rock so hard underfoot that I walked out @ a 9.  They're bulletproof but that was a total bomb.  Also still only very minimal edge chipping, and the topsheets are in great shape in general.    

 

 

 

These Magics absolutely slay the trees and make me feel like so much better of a skier.  Talk about playing it smooth- they really do allow you to feel your smoothest and most in tune so I can sight my line and just ski it.  Stuffing the tips into wind lips, rollers and logs to air is always rewarding as they just slice and plane, pivot and slarve so easily.  Air.  Stomp.  Slash.  Pop.  Swivel.  Rinse.  Repeat.   

 

 

The ONLY caveat to their design- and it isn't even a bad thing, more of just a sidenote- The tails don't give you a ton of feedback and energy through big fast turns.  It's totally fine though, as they still perform phenomenally at speed and you can make any shape turn, just don't expect the tails to rocket you into the next turn- that is completely up to you.

 

I'd love to hear some feedback from the people who bought them too.  Hope everyone's season is going well!         

post #76 of 80
Great to hear!

I still haven't been out on mine yet. I had held off on mounting them because I didn't want to have to remount once my CAST stuff showed up. Well my CAST parts showed up finally, but now I'm waiting on getting the boot conversion done. PJ/Race Stock was supposed to have been setup with the tools he needed by now but that hasn't happened. I may just send my boots in to Lars but I don't want to be without them for too long.

Also, on my girlfriends 168s, do you guys recommend -2 as well? Or right on the dimple?
post #77 of 80
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Great to hear!

I still haven't been out on mine yet. I had held off on mounting them because I didn't want to have to remount once my CAST stuff showed up. Well my CAST parts showed up finally, but now I'm waiting on getting the boot conversion done. PJ/Race Stock was supposed to have been setup with the tools he needed by now but that hasn't happened. I may just send my boots in to Lars but I don't want to be without them for too long.

Also, on my girlfriends 168s, do you guys recommend -2 as well? Or right on the dimple?


So PJ got his tools and I'm getting these mounted up this weekend!  Can't wait.

post #78 of 80
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So PJ got his tools and I'm getting these mounted up this weekend!  Can't wait.

For the 168 the benchmark is -1, but you can go forward or back from there according to your preference. Looking forward to more feedback, Hoss, thanks for your support!!

post #79 of 80
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.....The ONLY caveat to their design- and it isn't even a bad thing, more of just a sidenote- The tails don't give you a ton of feedback and energy through big fast turns.  It's totally fine though, as they still perform phenomenally at speed and you can make any shape turn, just don't expect the tails to rocket you into the next turn- that is completely up to you.

 

I'd love to hear some feedback from the people who bought them too.  Hope everyone's season is going well!         

 

The tail behavior you describe is absolutely a function of the tapered shape, and something we try to describe to folks when they demo. If you haven't been on a tapered ski, it can feel weird at first, as the tail doesn't send you across the hill like more traditional shapes. That's not to say it won't grip, it grips very well, it just doesn't tighten the arc set by the forebody of the ski. Driven from the center, you can set the turn shape from the front of the ski and ride it through.

 

However, quick direction changes, stivots and McConkey turns, especially in varied snow, trees and terrain, are where the taper instantly becomes so apparently valuable. Like pulling the e-brake on a rally car, you can pivot into rapid direction changes while carrying speed and float and without having to throw your weight around. This lets you stay on top of your feet, light and ready to make rapid fire course corrections in a way that is unusual for a ski that size.

 

Of course, I may be biased...so YMMV. :-)

post #80 of 80
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The tail behavior you describe is absolutely a function of the tapered shape, and something we try to describe to folks when they demo. If you haven't been on a tapered ski, it can feel weird at first, as the tail doesn't send you across the hill like more traditional shapes. That's not to say it won't grip, it grips very well, it just doesn't tighten the arc set by the forebody of the ski. Driven from the center, you can set the turn shape from the front of the ski and ride it through.

 

However, quick direction changes, stivots and McConkey turns, especially in varied snow, trees and terrain, are where the taper instantly becomes so apparently valuable. Like pulling the e-brake on a rally car, you can pivot into rapid direction changes while carrying speed and float and without having to throw your weight around. This lets you stay on top of your feet, light and ready to make rapid fire course corrections in a way that is unusual for a ski that size.

 

Of course, I may be biased...so YMMV. :-)

 

 

Exactly.  Not at all a "downside" but more of a condition brought about by it's agility-centric design.  I don't mind it at all and in fact it's what I love most about them- that I can do anything at any time without the skis being a noodle or sacrificing the energy camber affords you without "locking you in" and requiring you to unweight or change body position to make the next turn.  It is different feeling from a traditional ski though, in which the tails almost make that transition for you.  I can't even say it lacks high speed stability because it doesn't in the least and digs in an edge like few other skis, the tails just don't blast you out of a turn.  It's the only thing I'd make people aware of before buying this ski, but like I said it's all about the ability to choose from a vast array of turn shapes at any time with minimal hassle for the skier.    

 

 

Man I love these skis.  :D  They really do make me look like so much better of a skier than I am.  

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