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post #31 of 35
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Mine too.

Yeah, I think the current graphics are OK.  And of course, de gustibus non es disputandum, so we're all going to have our own personal views.   But the interesting question is whether, averaged over all US customers, Head's graphics have been helping or hurting them.  I suspect it's the been the latter, but I don't have the data.  I think they're doing better with the current ones.  I would guess the Joy graphics hit the mark pretty well.  

 

The Motorhead line's graphics (I assume that's what your referring to) represent an interesting marketing case.   I personally like the graphics on my Rock n Rolls, because they're so over the top I think they've verged into camp.  I think that's happened for a lot of people that own them.  But the transition to camp takes time; when they first came out I just thought they were silly, so they probably weren't a good choice for marketing to the kind of skier that would actually like them.

 

I will say this: I bought my Rock n Roll's despite the graphics b/c I got a good price and I thought they were the best 95 ski at the time.  I love them.

AND... I have gotten more attention, thumbs-up, and good-will from these skis than any other in my fairly long life.  At one Utah resort, the lifty consistently pushed me and my wife up to the front of the line because "this guy's got the raddest skis on the mountain today!"

post #32 of 35
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The Motorhead line's graphics (I assume that's what your referring to) represent an interesting marketing case.   I personally like the graphics on my Rock n Rolls, because they're so over the top I think they've verged into camp.  I think that's happened for a lot of people that own them.  But the transition to camp takes time; when they first came out I just thought they were silly, so they probably weren't a good choice for marketing to the kind of skier that would actually like them.

 

Yes, I'm referring to the Motorhead graphics as "kiddie graffiti".  True be told, I too have a pair of Motorhead family skis.  I have a pair of Head Hammered 115 that I grabbed during the summer of 2014 ($299 new!) to be a dedicated deep powder ski.  I find the graphics to be both interesting and tolerable.  I figured if the bull thingy on the tips got on my nerves, then I could always cover it up with a Crystal Mountain sticker.

 

(As best as I can tell, the Hammered 115 is identical to the Cyclic 115 from the Flight series.  The H115 appeared for one season, and the C115 came the following season.  Haven't skied the H115s yet as we had very bad snow conditions last season.)

post #33 of 35
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(As best as I can tell, the Hammered 115 is identical to the Cyclic 115 from the Flight series.  The H115 appeared for one season, and the C115 came the following season.  Haven't skied the H115s yet as we had very bad snow conditions last season.)

 

Interesting.  The specs, and your pic,suggest they've got identical sidecuts, but I thought the Flight series was constructed differently from the Motorhead series.

post #34 of 35
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Interesting.  The specs, and your pic,suggest they've got identical sidecuts, but I thought the Flight series was constructed differently from the Motorhead series.

 

 

 

Above, of course, is a picture of the Head Cyclic 115.  The yellow areas on the Cyclic 115 is where Head put an elastimeric core (i.e. rubber - LOL) to dampen the tip & tail.  Well, my Hammered 115's have raised areas at the tip & tail that appears to be identical in size & shape to the yellow areas in the above photo.  If you watch the following video of a Head representative describing the Hammered 115, at about the 1:00 mark in the video you'll see the raised areas on the Hammered 115.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2RJi4EI9Gk

 

Can I say for certain that the Cyclic 115 and Hammered 115 are identical in construction?  Of course not (... and I've done numerous Google searches trying to figure out if they are...).  I'd love to have a chance to hand flex, or better yet, ski the Cyclic 115 and compare it to my Hammered 115.

post #35 of 35

I was thinking of the original Motorhead series, which was listed as having a sandwich construction,  vs. the sandwich-cap of the Flight series.  But I just watched a video description of the Hammered, and it does indeed look like it has the same new construction (sandwich-cap, "exoskeleton") as the Cyclic 115, so it could well be the same ski.

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