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Proper buckling of boots

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
This might seem silly, but is the proper way to buckle up your boots from the bottom up. or the top down....Thanks
post #2 of 20
hey Richie....BOO!
post #3 of 20
>>> This might seem silly, but is the proper way to buckle up your boots from the bottom up. or the top down.. <<<

I'm not sure if there is a "right" way. But I usually "set" my foot firmly in the boot and heel with first a flat foot stomp, and then a heel tap. This sets the foot properly on the footbed and in the heel.

Then I position the tongue properly, centered and seated on my forefoot.

Then I start the buckle process, starting with the first notch on the buckle of the second buckle up. Then I do the first notch of the bottom buckle. Then I do the first notch of the third buckle and then I do first notch of the top buckle. Finally do the power strap firmly..but not to cut off circulation.

Then I work my way through the buckles again on the next notch or maybe just doing a micro-adjustment, if your boots have them, to get things just a tad firmer. I leave the bottom buckle alone, no need to squeeze my toes, but I'll usually firm up the others a slight bit.

After my first run I might need to do some final adjusting on the hill, maybe tweaking the 3rd buckle a turn or two of micro adjustment, or even a full notch. I'm a big believer in firm but not too tight being good enough for my recreational skiing. If you are out there doing some racing you might firm things up a notch more than I would.

This technique has worked for me. I'd be interested in others methods.

[ December 14, 2003, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: oldhippie ]
post #4 of 20
-Put boots on
-Push tongue down,DON'T PULL UP!
-2nd buckle
-Push shins forward,heels back
-Bottom buckle
-Top 2 buckles
post #5 of 20
for the normal 4 buckle overlap here's my ritual:

step in by pulling boot open sideways with one hand on shell, one on the tongue.

stand up and give a few deep flexes to get the heel into the pocket. Then (numbered from bottom to top) buckle #3, #4 and then powerstrap. Another couple flexes to really seat that heel in properly, then when you're ready to go, #1 and #2. If your boots are fit properly, #1 and #2 should be very lightly closed, just enough to keep the boots closed and dry. In a perfect world, you shouldn't have to rely on these bottom buckles to create the fit.

Problem with buckling the bottom ones up first is there's a tendency for the foot to slide forward (when you first step in) considering the natural motion of the foot and ramp angle... Thus, it's possible create discomfort/fatigue by cinching the foot to the front of the boot, then sort of stretching the foot as you tighten the top buckles.

Sorry, that's way too detailed a response for the question at hand... top to bottom, leave it at that.
post #6 of 20
How depressing. In my second season, I'm struggling to learn to ski well. I thought the one thing I had down was putting on my damn boots, and now I find out I haven't even been doing that right.
post #7 of 20
I would definitely like to keep this topic going... My first weekend with new boots was a little painful and any more advice on buckling would be appreciated. Most of my pain was on the top of the foot above the arch so coastal's advice sounds good to me. Regardless, I'll be off to the shop to get their input as well...
post #8 of 20
Quote:
Originally posted by aschir01:
I would definitely like to keep this topic going... My first weekend with new boots was a little painful and any more advice on buckling would be appreciated. Most of my pain was on the top of the foot above the arch so coastal's advice sounds good to me. Regardless, I'll be off to the shop to get their input as well...
Well, here's my order:

1. Pull up on tongue to get it out of the way as I put my foot in.
2. Lay tongue along foot and remove any wrinkles in sock/liner.
3. Buckle second buckle from top (lower cuff buckle), first notch.
4. Buckle top buckle first notch.
5. Flex forward, seating heel in pocket.
6. Buckle top two buckles tigher.
7. Buckle bottom two buckles snug but not tight.

Clearly from the other posts, YMMV!
ssh
post #9 of 20
ssh: Good list, my thoughts exactly. Being a racer im constantly unbuckling my boots before the lift ride and rebuckling them at the top. I follow the process above in the lodge, but on the mountain i leave the powerstrap alone all the time. I flex foreward and buckle the top two buckles (bottom one first) - this sets my heel in the heel pocket. Then i set the bottom two buckles in their normal snug but not tight position. This seems to work great. tonight was my 4th night on my new Nordica Doberman Softs, and i have to say that they did not hurt my feet at all (first night yet). As a side note everything seems to be working as i had intended - and even though they are not softened at all, im not having trouble flexing them at all.
Later
GREG
post #10 of 20
I vote w/ the later posters. Top buckles, powerstrap, flex, then lightly buckle lowers.
post #11 of 20
My bootfitter told me to do it as follows. Once you foot is in the boot:

1. Tighten the power strap,
2. buckle top to lower buckles, (first or second slot)
3. stand up and flex your knees driving your heel back into the pocket
4. repeat above steps.
5. re-adjust on the hill.

Seems to have worked for me for years.

These same steps your listed in Ski Magazine a few years back.
post #12 of 20
Here is my process...

Put foot in boot
Start screaming expletives and tightening buckles
Repeat
Scream some more expletives, louder
Ski
post #13 of 20
Quote:
Originally posted by descender:
Here is my process...

Put foot in boot
Start screaming expletives and tightening buckles
Repeat
Scream some more expletives, louder
Ski
You must own Lange Boots!

I have the L10's. I love them on the hill but they are a major contributer to my swearing problem.

Duke
post #14 of 20
Thanks for this topic, I have never considered this before. One question - how tight should the power strap be?
post #15 of 20
Snug, not to tight that it cut off blood supply.
post #16 of 20
>>> Snug, not to tight that it cut off blood supply. <<<

Excellent answer, I felt exactly the same. In fact, I think many people over tighten their boots in search of better support when they really have ill-fitting boots. Cutting off circulation is easier than many people realize and is a major source of pain and cold feet and possibly frostbite.

Good fitting boots don't need to be more than firmly snug, not tight, to properly do their job for most of us recreational skiers.

Doing your Nastar runs one might want to snug up a tad more, but not much.

At least this has been my personal experience.
post #17 of 20
Try using the power strap on the liner, inside the shell.
post #18 of 20
Hey Lucky, That's in the other Thread. [img]smile.gif[/img] No hijacking [img]smile.gif[/img]

I may try under the flip this weekend.
post #19 of 20
MaxCapacity's method is the same one I've used for many years.

oldhippie, you can discard the old "foot stomp" or "heel bang" technique that used to be required for old (late 60s - mid 80s) boots that used leather sock liners, had flow packets to mold around your heel, or had both the flow packets and leather sock liner. I haven't owned a leather-lined boot since 1976, and don't know anyone who skis in them. The friction caused by sock/leather interface is pretty considerable in a (relatively) tight-fitting ski boot. Same for the need for the ankle's malleolar bumps to clear the flow packets. Those were the primary reasons people were taught the stomp/bang.

Also, MaxCapacity's technique of using a well-adjusted upper cuff to lever the heel into the pocket renders the old stomp/bang redundant and thus useless.
post #20 of 20
>>> oldhippie, you can discard the old "foot stomp" or "heel bang" technique <<<

>>> Also, MaxCapacity's technique of using a well-adjusted upper cuff to lever the heel into the pocket renders the old stomp/bang redundant and thus useless. <<<

yeah, I am realizing that. some old habbits die hard. I am going to give this new idea of buckling the upper then flexing to lever the heel into the pocket.

Thanks!!
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