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I am 5'8", approximately 170lbs and an advanced skier. I enjoy skiing powder, trees, ocassional steeps and cruising groomers on sunny days or when my legs are tired. I am not that proficient in moguls. I generally do not ski fast. I am more of a finesses skier that takes pride in carving relatively short radius turns, but sometimes love to lean into long GS turns conditions permitting. I generally ski on the East Coast about 10 days a year and make one or two trips out West a year. These skis will be primarily for the East Coast and will replace my 10-11 year old 170cm Atomic 1020s. I just returned from a long weekend in Vail and thought my response to the 4 different skis I tried may help you help me!

 

Day 1: About 12"-15" of fresh powder. Demoed Rossi E98 in a 170. Frankly, I think I would have enjoyed myself regardless of what was strapped to my boots, but while I had fun, I thought these were a bit stiff when I tried linking turns at the end of the day.

 

Day 2: Sunny and warm. Demoed Icelantic Pilgrims in about 170cm. Again, these seemed fine in leftover powder and crud, but I had a hard time linking turns in these later in the day. Perhaps I was tired or just not used to getting wider skis on edge.

 

Day 3: A little crusty and hard packed in places, but still some crud and soft groomers. Started with Salomon Enduro 800 in 175cm. These worked well on groomers, but were too long in tighter spaces. Wish I could have skied them in a 170cm. Next I skied a K2 Rictor in 170cm. These seemed almost too smooth, but I did enjoy my time on them. Perhaps they are more forgiving and maybe that's what I like?

 

The Salomon Enduro 800/850 or K2 Rictors seem like they might check a number of boxes, but as you now know, I haven't bought or followed ski development in quite some time.

 

I think I would like a ski with a <85mm waist that can carve shorter radius turns at slower speeds, handle East Coast hard pack/ice, but would like to be able to use them on the ocassional East Coast powder day or out West in less than optimal conditions or a 6" powder day.

 

I may be asking too much, but appreciate your thoughts in advance.

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It sounds like you are planning to replace your existing skis.  If that is the case, I think you are asking a bit much from one ski.  You may have been feeling the affects of altitude in Vail and if you had been skiing pretty much all day you might have also been tired.  Both the E98 and Pilgrim are relatively stiff skis but you have enough weight that you should not have had problems with either.  I have heard the Ricktor is a very forgiving ski but when I demoed the 82mm version a couple of weeks ago I never really felt in control, but they may have needed a tune.  You may want to consider and demo, if you can, the Blizzard Magnum 8.5 or 8.0.  I haven't skied them but people I know who own them rave about them as being incredibly versatile.  You may also want to see if you can demo the Nordica Fire Arrow 80 Pro, a narrower and less demanding version of the FA 84 EDT.  I have skied the 84 EDT and it is a fabulous ski, easily capable of handing very hard groomers and possibly ice and 6" of powder, but it is not a forgiving ski and requires your strict attention.

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Any thoughts about the Blizzard Magnum 8.5 vs. Salomon Enduro 850 XT for my ski style and destinations? I can get the latter with bindings for $550, which appears to be a good deal. Thanks.

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I tested both skis last season. Choosing the right one will depend on the feel you like.

On hard snow, both skis hold an edge well. However, I felt the Blizzard to be more damp. The Salomon seemed to have more spring to it. I felt that the Blizzard was better at long turns. The Salomon skied better medium to short.

In cruddy snow, I felt that both skis were stable, but I felt that the Blizzard held speed better. The Salomon got bounced around a bit. The difference is subtle, but a good skier could notice it.

In moguls, I felt both skis performed as well as each other. I didn't notice much difference.

I am 5'9" and 170ish pounds. I like the Blizzard in the 174 and the Salomon in the 177.

I ended up getting the Blizzard because I prefer a damp GS ride. I ski in the wide open runs of the Sierra.

From what I read about you, I have a feeling that you may prefer the Salomon more. In certain situations, the springiness and turn shape may match your skiing preferences. Plus the discounted price isn't a bad thing.

Dennis
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Thank you for all of your replies. My local ski shop has Magnum 8.5ti on sale for $540 without bindings. They have 167cm and 174cm in stock, but I am not sure which size is better for me. My height was measured yesterday as part of my company's health plan and it appears I may have shrunk a bit as it came to just under 5'7"' but this may not be totally accurate. Also, my current weight is 172, but needs to and will move down a bit!!! As I stated earlier, I do not ski super fast and am more of a carver. I have been skiing on 170 Atomic 1020 for the past 10 years.

So, what size is best and is the sale price good (I think it's 40% off retail). Thanks again!
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Thank you for all of your replies. My local ski shop has Magnum 8.5ti on sale for $540 without bindings. They have 167cm and 174cm in stock, but I am not sure which size is better for me. My height was measured yesterday as part of my company's health plan and it appears I may have shrunk a bit as it came to just under 5'7"' but this may not be totally accurate. Also, my current weight is 172, but needs to and will move down a bit!!! As I stated earlier, I do not ski super fast and am more of a carver. I have been skiing on 170 Atomic 1020 for the past 10 years.

So, what size is best and is the sale price good (I think it's 40% off retail). Thanks again!

 

174 - Weight trumps height.

You may find a better price, but that's the going rate.

post #7 of 8
Where do you ski, specifically? All groomers, or do you love bumps and trees? Never ignore Dynastar ... You might try to demo an Outland 80 or 87.
post #8 of 8
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Thanks again for all of the responses. Despite the fact that my local shop has a decent selection of premium skis on sale (e.g., Blizzard 8.0ti, 8.0 ca, 8.5ti, Volkl Kendo), I decided that I have not skied on enough different types of skis and sizes to make an informed decision even at 40% off retail. For example, I'm not sure whether I want a ski with metal in it or not. Hopefully, next season I will be a little more proactive in demoing skis to help me with my decision.
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