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fischer sceneo 500

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Anyone skied this?

I am getting pocket rockets for the steep and deep

I need something to rip up the entire mountain {trees,bumps, steeps and still be able to handle the 6-8inches of freshies that fell at noon.

I cant decide between the fischer sceneo 500 and the Volkl 5star supersport.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Im 210lbs 6'2 and ski everything and anything {usualy stay away from groomers}
post #2 of 22
Hi

The S500 is a very nice allmountain ski, If you want one ski the S500 is just what you are looking for!, I have tried/tested all the new Fischer and dynastar SC/GS skies last week in Sôlden, Austria, and two skies standed out from the pack, the Fischer WC GS 170-175 cm and S500 170 cm. The S500 is very stable on hard pack 170 cm, I also used it in the offpist, where you properly should go for the 175 cm or 180 cm dependent on the application % on/off pist.

All I can say is that I will properly buy this ski because of the huge application area

hang loose
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
I didnt know it was availible in 175.

I couldnt decide between 170 and 180 but perhaps if there is a 175, I will get that.

Are you sure there is a 175?

Im 210 6'3 and am an expert skier.

Perhaps I should just get the 180?
post #4 of 22
http://www.fischerskis.com/eng/index.asp The Sceneo 500 comes in 10 cm increments from 150-180 cm. I promised myself that I wouldn't buy new skis last season and this one but my resolve is weakening.

I may re-think my earlier position if the 500 is that great of a ski. [img]smile.gif[/img] I would like to get a good all-mountain ski for the PNW next season (or maybe this).
post #5 of 22
Funny you picked those skis. I was on the S500 last year. Great ski, especially in Cruddy snow or deep powder. For you size, look at the 180cm, unless you like especially quick turning skis. They suffered a bit when the snow was refrozen, icy chicken heads. The width of the tip seem to deflect all over.

This year I am on Volkl 5star Supersport. Seem like a great ski, very agile. Awesome. Not as stiff as the Sceneo.

JLaw
Breck
post #6 of 22
Ski Canada magazine reviews thought very highly of the S500 skis in the 160-170 length (Free Carve category). They said that they are very versatile carvers, with a SL feel to them in short lengths. They nailed the category.

Ski Presse magazine tested them in the All Mountain category (170 and 180 lengths) and they did OK, but were not at the top of the category. Difficult for bumps and quick short turns in longer lengths. Not a floater in powder, they said!

I do believe that for bumps the Volkl SuperSport is a much better choice.

I bought the S500 in 160cm for Easter skiing and quick turns (but I am 160 lbs and 5'6''). I am hoping that they will be the "all mountain slalom skis" everyone says they are.
post #7 of 22
Thread Starter 
Yea, see..not many Ski Mag testers are young, fast, 210lbs and 6feet 2 inches. I think the 180 will do for me what the 170 did for those people.

I definatly will be making mostly short-medium radius turns on these though. Also, I have atomic Big daddys {193cm} on the way and also a pair of 185cm pocket rockets.

Last year, I skied the 170cm volkl SL p50 {taos ski mountain}. I had damn heavy marker piston bindings 1400? and they had like tons of rise plus my atomic boots have tons of rise as well. I was like on stilts.

They didnt perform as well as I wanted when we got freshies in the middle of the day {no time to go get pow skis}.

they did seem plenty stable at speed on hardpack for me. I never once felt they were too short.

So, perhaps I should stick with 170?

are the sceneo 500's as stiff as the volkl p50's? {I know the sceneos come with an optional plate}

In the end I think I might just toss a coin and pray...
post #8 of 22
The Ski Mag testers are some of the very best skiers out there, so I fell your characterization of them is off the mark. However, since you are young, strong, large, and ski every day, yuo probably will handle anything well.
post #9 of 22
AF asked are the sceneo 500's as stiff as the volkl p50's? {I know the sceneos come with an optional plate}

I don't know, but I would doubt that they would be stiffer than the p50s. Comparing them to my Salomon AxeCleavers, they seem to be less stiff, but have more swing weight.

Bye the way, the Booster plate that the S500 comes with was not optional when I bought the ski. The plate is 15mm. With my binding I get 33 mm lift (45mm from the ground).

The Booster oly adds lift. It is not meant to stiffen the ski.
post #10 of 22
The plate on the Fischer Sceneo 500 is standard.
On the Sceneo 400 it's standard in Canada and Japan. It comes without the plate in the USA. Go figure. :
post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 
I believe on form there is a check box for the ski and another for the ski w/plate.
post #12 of 22
AF,
I could be wrong. I was looking at http://www.fischerskis.com/eng/index.asp
It does not look like the Booster plate is an option on the S400.
Since it comes standard on the S400 in some countries, maybe it is also now available in the USA just not on the website. I didn't mean to hijack this thread which is supposed to ber about the Fischer Sceneo 500 which does have a 15mm Booster plate in the USA and elsewhere.

[ November 18, 2002, 01:00 AM: Message edited by: Lostboy ]
post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
No, I meant to say that the s500 has the option as well....

As soon as the rep around here gets a move on and gets me the form Ill let everyone know about the plate thing.

Later
post #14 of 22
It is funny how in Canada they sell the Sceneo ski as a "new generation" carving ski, just like in Europe. In the US it is an all-mountain mid-fat type of ski (because carving is too Euro for Americans?).

The Canadian web site and the US web site show the differences in some models.
post #15 of 22
I want to start by saying I "pro-rep" for Fischer.

I skied the 500 in a 170 and a 400 in a 160 today.

In a word wow! I am truely amazed. The Peter Keelty reviews are right on the money. These two skis will be very popular. They do it all.

Please demo these skis before you buy anything else.
post #16 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by Rusty Guy:
I skied the 500 in a 170 and a 400 in a 160 today.

In a word wow! I am truely amazed. The Peter Keelty reviews are right on the money. These two skis will be very popular. They do it all.
How do the Sceneo's compare to other recreational slalom carvers - such as the Fischer Worldcup SC, the Atomic 9.12 and the K2 Mach S (all of which you have posted about earlier)? What are the advantages and disadvantages? What were the differences in the lengths/models, and what length/model would you recommend for specific styles?

Thank you.
post #17 of 22
Rusty Guy,
I've always liked Fischer Skis.
I have a few more questions.
Aside from the model differences, which length did you prefer?
Given that the lengths tested were different, how would you describe the differences between the S500 and S400?

Which would you recommend for an 5'11" 180lb advanced skier and
in what length for use as an all mountain type ski?

Thanks.
post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 
I did not see it myself, but according to the rep, there is an option to get the sceneo 500 with or without the plate.

Im going without.

PS..I just ordered some Atomic Big Daddys!!!

Wohoo....big daddys, fischer sceneo500's and Pocket rockets 185

I am set!
post #19 of 22
I was never a fan of the K2 Mach S product. The SL9 is a great ski. I find the WC SC to be very comparable to the SL9, however, I have to say the Fischer seems to have a little more edge grip on hard snow.

I guess what amazed me about the two Sceneos was there carving ability and edge grip. Once "on edge" I was locked in. Both skis performed like a short slalom.

Since I have a 155 WC SC I'm going to add the Sceneo 500 in a 170cm length to use at Loveland when we get the whole place open and have a little more snow.

If I was in the east I'd ski on a 160 cm 400
post #20 of 22
Rusty Guy,
Thanks. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
-LB
post #21 of 22
Rusty How did sceneo 500 and 400 profrom in bumps? The wide tip seems like it could be a problem in moguls? I haven't had a chance to demo them yet. I always like a ski that makes bumps more fun while still being able to ski The whole Mountain. From all I have read they seem to be some really fun skis. A ski that would fit could fit vary well into my quiver. The only complaint is that The Fischers this season Have some butt ugly graphics. Fischer must have hired the graphic designer That did the Volkle G41 from a few years back. You know the ones that were lime green with bold black lettering. That was one ugly ski. Last season the Fischer big sticks looked great with the wood and old style lettering. ok so you shouln't buy a ski becuse of how they look. But lets face it looks do count for something.Ok That rant is over. I'm going to demo The Fischer Sceneos as soon as I can this season.I would just like to hear a little more about this ski as well as the big Stick 75? Any thoughts on that ski?
post #22 of 22
By Utah 49: The only complaint is that The Fischer’s this season have some butt ugly graphics. Fischer must have hired the graphic designer That did the Volkle G41 from a few years back. You know the ones that were lime green with bold black lettering. That was one ugly ski. Last season the Fischer big sticks looked great with the wood and old style lettering. ok so you shouln't buy a ski becuse of how they look. But lets face it looks do count for

I am a dyed in the wool Fischer fan but I have to admit that from time to time they have designed some ugly looking skis. This season's Slalom line looks like it came out of a printer that was low on toner.

This season's Sceneo line looks pretty nice. If you do not like the color scheme of the S500 or S400, you can buy a pair in Canada that has different color schemes http://www.fischer-ski.com/
(Search Canada) or in France at http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/e_index.htm

I remember the green and black Volkls. Yeech. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Do graphics matter? They shouldn't but let's face it; they do count for something in many prospective buyers minds.
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