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First skis for advanced beginner, dynaster vs elan, which one to choose?

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I'm 5'10", 190 lbs. Beginner for ski, just start learning parallel, but I'm an advanced intermediate snowboarder so I'm not new to snow sport. I live in Vancouver BC. Go up the mountain once a week.

 

I want an all mountain skis, which will help me progress to an advanced intermediate skier and hopefully last for 3-5 years before I need to upgrade skis.

 

I can't decide which one of the following to get, please give me some advise.

 

Dynastar Outland 75, 166

Elan e/flex 6, 168

Atomic smoke 164,

Rossi experience 74, 166

Rossi experience 76, 166

 

Rossi is a little more expensive than the rest. The rest are pretty much the same price.

 

I'm leaning towards Dynastar and Elan, but I don't know the characteristics of each brand.

 

What do you guys suggest? And is 166 a good size?

 

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 12

^too short to last 3-5 years, too short to be truly 'all mountain' for someone your size, even  going by circa 2002 ski waist and sizing standards.

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I agree.  If you want skis in the mid 160 range, I'd recommend getting used skis.  Ski them for 1-2 seasons and then buy something longer and wider, and better.

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You'll outgrow 166cm within a year, around 180cm should be your minimum give or take a few cm and add a few if you go with a lot of rocker.  Since you're in the West a 80-90mm underfoot is probably the best for "All-Mountain" depending on where you like to ski.  I'm a big fan of Dynastar, but really most brands are good quality and you should defiantly branch out to more brands.  You'll Probably get a much better deal and better ski for your ability and needs.

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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post

^too short to last 3-5 years, too short to be truly 'all mountain' for someone your size, even  going by circa 2002 ski waist and sizing standards.

I only skied twice, and was renting a 160 skis the rental gave me. I'm afraid if I get a 170+, it would be hard for me to progress.

Maybe not 3-5 year that long, but Im just looking for something will help me improve to be an advanced intermediate skier before it become a bottleneck for me.

Any suggestions?
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I agree.  If you want skis in the mid 160 range, I'd recommend getting used skis.  Ski them for 1-2 seasons and then buy something longer and wider, and better.

Thanks for the advice. Since the deal is good and only 50 bucks more than seasonal rental, do I decide to buy new. I can't really find an used one locallly fits my level.
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Thanks for the advice. Since the deal is good and only 50 bucks more than seasonal rental, do I decide to buy new.

 

 

 

Up to you.    If it was me and if I thought I would get 20+ days on snow over the rest of this season, I'd go for the 76mm Rossi first choice and the Outland as second choice  then expect to sell them used sometime next year.

 

 

 

Mid season is the wrong time to look for used.    Ski swaps in the fall are much better for this.

 

 

Have you had the 'spend money on boots' lecture yet?

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You'll outgrow 166cm within a year, around 180cm should be your minimum give or take a few cm and add a few if you go with a lot of rocker.  Since you're in the West a 80-90mm underfoot is probably the best for "All-Mountain" depending on where you like to ski.  I'm a big fan of Dynastar, but really most brands are good quality and you should defiantly branch out to more brands.  You'll Probably get a much better deal and better ski for your ability and needs.

Thanks! It seems like I will need upgrade anyway after at most 2 years.

 

I learned my lesson from snowboarding. I got an intermediate board at the beginning. It was hard to learn and imporve on it, but it did last a long time. So this time I want to be more conservative on equipment becuase I want to imporve fast.

 

The next avaiable size for Outland is 176, would that be too long for me?

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Up to you.    If it was me and if I thought I would get 20+ days on snow over the rest of this season, I'd go for the 76mm Rossi first choice and the Outland as second choice  then expect to sell them used sometime next year.

 

 

 

Mid season is the wrong time to look for used.    Ski swaps in the fall are much better for this.

 

 

Have you had the 'spend money on boots' lecture yet?

Yes. I did. I know boots are the most important. I started learning ski 2 weeks ago, and I don't want to waste my money on rental anymore. It's almost $50 per day. A new set of skis only about $200. I know it's not the good time to make a purchase, but I want to ski before this season ends.

 

Rossi is a little out of my budget. The next availabe size for Outland is 176, would that too long for me?

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Have you had the 'spend money on boots first' lecture yet?

 

FIFY

post #11 of 12
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I don't know why my previous replies did not show up on the forum. Anyway, thanks for all of you advise! I decide to give Outland 75 a try for the price.

 

Boots are definitely the most important. My 50% of budget will go to boots. After some research, I think I need a flex rating equal or less than 80 boots, Am I right?

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Originally Posted by richard117 View Post

Thanks! It seems like I will need upgrade anyway after at most 2 years.

 

I learned my lesson from snowboarding. I got an intermediate board at the beginning. It was hard to learn and imporve on it, but it did last a long time. So this time I want to be more conservative on equipment becuase I want to imporve fast.

 

The next avaiable size for Outland is 176, would that be too long for me?


You'll get used to the 176 size, it's more of a mental thing then being too big.  In the long run a 176cm will last much longer and help to improve your skiing much better by than a ski that's too short.

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