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post #121 of 138

Whoah.  Good boy!

post #122 of 138
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yeah - managed to work that into his everyday skiing now...

 

post #123 of 138
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and here's the final video of where they are and i'm going to close this thread - thank you all for feedback and guidance. perhaps will create a new one next season.

 

post #124 of 138
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I lied - that was not the last footage for blue jacket from the past season... this is and it's quite a difference, worth posting:

 

 

 

blue jacket - last day on race skis - after intense 3 day training during the provincials.

 

I see the huge advantage larger clubs have by having higher caliber racers to use for demo and just say do "that" rather than try to explain the thing in words... he's got a lot more work ahead, but those 3 days made a big difference, with me keeping pointing this or that and working them thoroughly.

 

This was probably the last day on race skis - followed by one week of mountain glades on twin tips.

 

The biggest thing holding them back over the past few years was having to wait for me to learn this stuff...

 

cheers and thanks for the help!

post #125 of 138

Very nice turns by blue jacket.  I like what he's doing with his inside knee.

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indeed - took this still - not a lot going wrong there - he fixed a lot of issues... best I've seen all season from him

 

post #127 of 138
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it is really interesting how every time I re-read this thread I pick up something else, understand a bit more... man, was I ever soo naive last year...

 

many thanks to all of you that contributed

post #128 of 138

Very nice development. Blue jacket has really come a long way. Inside ski tipping has improved, and the release is greatly improved. He still has a bit of pop out of the turn at times, but he's controlling it for the most part. His colleague in red jacket/yellow helmet could learn a lot from him. 

 

The main issue I see now is pushing to bend the skis in the middle of the turn. This will likely diminish as he grows larger and stronger, but it is something to pay attention to nonetheless. I have had a difficult time getting rid of it in my own skiing, as I used it as a crutch to avoid learning the balance in the top of the turn that blue jacket is really starting to understand. As he begins to learn to bend the skis through pullback and tip access rather than pushing, his skiing will get even better. The other pieces are coming along nicely.

 

Again, good skiing and I look forward to seeing what you all accomplish next year. :beercheer: 


Edited by doublediamond223 - 7/25/14 at 5:06pm
post #129 of 138
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Very nice development. Blue jacket has really come a long way. Inside ski tipping has improved, and the release is greatly improved. He still has a bit of pop out of the turn at times, but he's controlling it for the most part. His colleague in red jacket/yellow helmet could learn a lot from him. 

 

The main issue I see now is pushing to bend the skis in the middle of the turn. This will likely diminish as he grows larger and stronger, but it is something to pay attention to nonetheless. I have had a difficult time getting rid of it in my own skiing, as I used it as a crutch to avoid learning the balance in the top of the turn that blue jacket is really starting to understand. As he begins to learn to bend the skis through pullback and tip access rather than pushing, his skiing will get even better. The other pieces are coming along nicely.

 

Again, good skiing and I look forward to seeing what you all accomplish next year. :beercheer: 

thank you. yeah - it was a pain to get orange jacket off his tails two years ago when I coached them - he's got some insane balance skills and he is our best U14 skier by far (well, blue jacket is now consistently just 3 tens behind). I only had orange jacket for like 2 days this season as I coached U12s instead, and it was hard to get him to trust me picking his skiing apart when he was wining race after race... you know what i mean :) that was one of blue jacket's advantages: blind trust.

 

great observation as usual with the pushing - thanks.

 

as for next year, they're all moving up, the two above to U16 and the little guy / green-red pants to U14 - I am offered both age groups and don't know which to take... I'm inclined towards staying with the little guy as I spend lots of time with big guy / blue jacket dirt biking and enduro training and racing all summer... also, little guy only really seems to put in the effort if I'm around...

:beercheer: 

post #130 of 138
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found more - here's some race footage - this is blue jacket at the provincials, end of season.

 

 

 

youtube's free and it's summer, what the heck...

post #131 of 138
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thank you. yeah - it was a pain to get orange jacket off his tails two years ago when I coached them - he's got some insane balance skills and he is our best U14 skier by far (well, blue jacket is now consistently just 3 tens behind). I only had orange jacket for like 2 days this season as I coached U12s instead, and it was hard to get him to trust me picking his skiing apart when he was wining race after race... you know what i mean :) that was one of blue jacket's advantages: blind trust.

 

great observation as usual with the pushing - thanks.

 

as for next year, they're all moving up, the two above to U16 and the little guy / green-red pants to U14 - I am offered both age groups and don't know which to take... I'm inclined towards staying with the little guy as I spend lots of time with big guy / blue jacket dirt biking and enduro training and racing all summer... also, little guy only really seems to put in the effort if I'm around...

:beercheer: 

 

I can imagine that it was a very tough sell to get orange jacket to take coaching if he was winning. However, he won't keep winning once his peers get stronger and learn to carve the high C and load the ski properly. 

 

The little guy could probably use your full-time attention, if it's an either/or situation. Blue jacket is reaching the level where less frequent adjustments and tips from you should be sufficient to maintain his progress.

 

That last race video you posted showed a significantly wider stance than the freeskiing, and he falls inside frequently. Obviously, it's much harder to ski with ideal movements in a course, but the course does starkly reveal movement deficiencies. I'd suggest having him ski arc to arc in a narrow stance with the inside tail lifted, it's helped me to learn stance ski balance. Think about dragging the inside boot up the outside leg as you tip. He'd probably also benefit from some CB drills to further strengthen balance over that outside ski. On a closer look at the previous freeski video, this same fall inside is visible in the bottom of the turns, although it is more subtle. I've been working on the same problem. 

 

Also, is that a flush in the GS course at ~1:35 in the race video? Never seen that one before :rotflmao:

post #132 of 138
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indeed - took this still - not a lot going wrong there - he fixed a lot of issues... best I've seen all season from him

 

 

 

IMO there are improvements to be made. Start by narrowing the stance and get more weight/balance over the outside ski.

post #133 of 138
 you need to think of "placing the feet" where they need to be catch or support the mass, 

 

I am totally going to steal that explanation this season. Great

post #134 of 138
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Ok - we'll pick this up two seasons from now. He managed to rip an ACL pretty badly and will not go near any skis this winter. He did not do that dirt-bike racing or mountain bike racing or ski racing, but while playing tag at a stupid camp.

 

yeah, bummer, i know. well - on the other hand, i get to use his 20m GS skis that I like so much.

 

cheers and thanks

post #135 of 138

Sorry Razie,

 

You thought about finding a pool for helping his rehab?

post #136 of 138
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Sorry Razie,

 

You thought about finding a pool for helping his rehab?

rehab will start in december or so... we'll look to take him to a pool, yes.

 

thanks

post #137 of 138
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Ok - we'll pick this up two seasons from now. He managed to rip an ACL pretty badly and will not go near any skis this winter. He did not do that dirt-bike racing or mountain bike racing or ski racing, but while playing tag at a stupid camp.

 

yeah, bummer, i know. well - on the other hand, i get to use his 20m GS skis that I like so much.

 

cheers and thanks

 

Oh my goodness! I'm sorry to hear. Summer camp is the worst. it'd suck to happen to your boy, and doubly so when he's also your ski buddy. Hope he has the speediest recovery possible. 

post #138 of 138
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well - he is back - training slalom with whatever we can find this time of year: trees are plenty :eek

 

 

hopefully he'll stay in one piece until the winter :rolleyes

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