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90 - 100mm chargers!

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Me: 5'9" 180lbs solid, been skiing since 15yo. I like to go fast and off piste whenever the snow is good. This usually means crud of varying quality. My skis: K2 apache recons (177cm) which are good but only 78mm wide I believe. I love them on groomers, steeps, bumps and all around except deep powder or crud (especially the sticky sierra cement). I ski out west mostly Mammoth.

Now I'm looking for a wider ski for the deeper days but I dont think I want to go over 100mm because they may be my DD except for maybe icy / very hard pack which my K2's will do fine. So -- I've had my eyes on the Bonafieds, only problem is I cant find them anywhere! My next choice is the Mantras which I tried and liked but in harder snow or bumps they seemed to be a little stiffer than I prefer. Keep in mind they are the first I've tried in this category so I dont have a lot of data or feedback. I think I need metal because I do ski aggressive most of the time. What about the Rossi Experience 98? I've heard good things and the reviews are good.  I loved my Bandit XX which are my rock skis now, and 7s from my past life :) so I have fond memories on Rossignol skis. Brand aside what would you "ski experts" recommend for me to try.

post #2 of 14

you want it for this year or next year?  

cause if you are really are set on getting the bonafides, then you can sign up to pre-order next year's shipment of them.   You will be paying MAP (minimum advertised price) on them, so no deals to be had.  But everybody else will also being paying that price because they will sell out before they have leftovers to go on sale. Otherwise you could just keep an eye out and hope to get lucky spotting someone wanting to sell them used.

post #3 of 14
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I could wait for them. But I cant even find a pair to demo? How do the Rossi E98 or Mantras compare to the bones

post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by HB Skier View Post

I could wait for them. But I cant even find a pair to demo? How do the Rossi E98 or Mantras compare to the bones

if you want to demo them, they do have them @Powderhouse demo shop at Heavenly South Lake Tahoe, unless people bought out all the demos too. 

Considering you maybe paying all in with bindings and tax about $1000 to get these skis, it might be worthwhile to make a trip to try them out.  You should call though before showing up at the door, or put the trip on your planner for next season and they may have 2014 bonafides on demo.

I will leave it to someone else to comment on the other skis-or try searching to see if you can find an old discusison. 

post #5 of 14

Do not dismiss the Nordica Enforcer or even the Dynastar Cham97

post #6 of 14

How about the Nordica Hell & Back(98mm) or Atomic Ritual(103mm)?

post #7 of 14

If you like having something a bit different than everyone else, a brand I have skied for years is Movement.  It isn't well distributed in the USA, but is very popular in Canada and Europe.  The Buzz or the Source would both work fantastic for you in the under 100 group.  I have the Source and it is my go to ski when it hasn't snowed recently and the conditions will be firmer with maybe some soft snow left overs here and there.  The Buzz is a more Bonafide version (but with a flat tail) of one of my favorite skis ever, the Sluff.  If I didn't already have both my TST's and Source skis, I would be very interested in the Buzz, but then again, I would really look hard at the Trust at 108 underfoot.  Great pricing from these guys and I buy from them at least once a session, as their ski/binding deals are often fantastic.  http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/movement/c-skis/skidiscipline-alpineskiing/f/

Oddly the reviews seem to really favor the Source.  Maybe I got lucky buying those, as they are a great pair of skis.  http://www.epicski.com/products/movement-source/reviews

http://shop.snowshepherd.co.uk/Ski-Tests-2010-/-2011/Movement-Source-Review-2012

post #8 of 14

If you've liked K2s and want a less stiff Mantra look at the K2 Hardside.

post #9 of 14
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Ok the more I research the more skis I find that should be what I'm looking for (skis.com). Nordicas Hell and Back, Line prophet 98, Rossi E 98, K2 hardside + more. I'm going to Mammoth thursday so I'll see what I can demo. Hopefully I can try several on mtn. Thanks

post #10 of 14

The E98 won't give you the off piste/bump versatility that some of the others will. For what you are asking for, I think the Enforcer is a better choice than the Hell & Back for the charging aspect. The P98 is a pretty good choice too. Footloose has a real good selection of demos. 

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I'm going to Mammoth thursday so I'll see what I can demo. Hopefully I can try several on mtn. Thanks

If you bsl is anywhere close to 315, I could let you try my Sources out too, as I will be there with the HBSC, Friday through Sunday.

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If you bsl is anywhere close to 315, I could let you try my Sources out too, as I will be there with the HBSC, Friday through Sunday.

Ok I'm with HBSC. Pm me Curt

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Philpug, have you skied both the H&B's and Enforcers back to back?  I got on the H&B's and was really impressed with them, but didn't have a chance to get on Enforcers.  Obviously the main difference is metal, but any other differences?  I was really impressed actually with the H&B's "charging" ability.  I'm 6' 2'' 180 lbs, hopefully a PSIA Level 3 in the next few years, and ski in the east, mixing up turn shapes and terrain.  Which do you think would be better?

post #14 of 14

After ripping the edge out of my Hot Rod Jet Fuels at Snow Basin last week, I got to demo some Prophet 98s.  I liked 'em and even for my 300# 6'5" size, they seemed to hold in the iced groomers as well as the fresh stuff.

 

How do the H&B's and Enforcers stack against these skis?

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