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POC Helmet - great, POC Goggle Clip - Fail

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

Just received my POC Backcountry helmet yesterday.  I'm pretty stoked about it - some of the best protection in it's class.

 

Now the rub.  The goggle clip looks like an afterthought.  it slips onto the back of the helmet shell and simply slips back out.  Put the goggle through the clip, the clip slides out the bottom.

 

I am absolutely amazed there is no permanent anchor on the helmet.

 

Anyone else see this?

 

Only the bottom slides in.  The interface between the black and white portions of the helmet is flush.

Nothing "clicks" into the helmet

 

post #2 of 26

My clip works just fine. You might think of putting little velcro dots, which you can find

in the sewing department at Walmart, to hold the clip in place.

post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 

Racer,  My clip is extraordinarily long.  That is, to accomodate a wide goggle strap.  Does your strap consume the entire width of the clip?   I heard there is a smaller clip.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.  if you are suggesting I place the velcro, across the top,  that sounds like an excellent idea.

post #4 of 26
Thread Starter 

here is what I mean,

 

post #5 of 26
Old POC clip blows. Newer models (Fornix ) have a better clip.
post #6 of 26

Agree that the clip design in general (force it up under the foam in back and hope it stays) is pathetic for such an advanced helmet maker. Made worse by some models' weird shape in back, with the maximum depth high up, and then a major taper back in to the neckline. So google straps have to slip down. The BUG clip is so bad we ended up using surgical tape on the back of the helmet. OTOH, the racing models have a nice silicon pad to grip straps. Go figure...

post #7 of 26
Who needs the clip anyhow? The only thing they are good for is looking rental when you goggles hang from them backwards. And that's a condition you NEED to fix ASAP.

Get good goggles with a silicon rubber bead on the strap. Then they stay put anyhow.
post #8 of 26

Go look at the side profile of a non-racing POC and get back to us about why they need a clip. The straps end up down on the neck. Silicon doesn't help. Honestly. 

post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 

I have the helmet.  It doesn't stay firm on the face if you don't have it up on the helmet.  The back is black, it's hard shell, flush with the white.  The last thing I need is a strap down on the neck.  Every other helmet has a strap retainer.

 

If you look at how POC mounts the goggles, you can see that it is much farther up the helmet.  No where near the neck.

http://www.pocsports.com/en/combo

 

What make a set of goggle "good"?  I've been using the same similar set for years, with zero problems.  No need to spend money on something I don't need.

post #10 of 26

I have a Skull Comp with the softer black on the back of the helmet. I have used the helmet with and without the clip. I am thinking a couple of drops of superglue might do the trick to keep the clip on the helmet.

post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 

I think I've figured it out.  I need to have the strap threaded through in front of the clip, so the clip is being pressed into the helmet.  It still slides down, as if it's too high.  I don't think I'll lose it now, but

 

I don't believe need any sort of additional bonding agent.

 

Thanks for the suggestions.

post #12 of 26

Throw away the clip and use a couple of strips of Velcro in its place.  I do this with all my helmets  (including 2 pocs) and it works perfectly 

post #13 of 26
Thread Starter 

Scot Skier

sounds reasonable.  I'm looking for convenience - one less thing for me to use. 

I just got a note back from POC customer service who said they prefer to use nothing at all.  If I insist, they would suggest hot glue gun. 

Your suggestion is the most reasonable approach with the least impact.

 

Thanks

Bill

post #14 of 26

I never use my clip on my POC helmet... but I also have a neat rubber area along the backside of the helmet to keep the goggles in place. Even without it, my goggles are fine. Get a good set of goggles with the rubber lining on the strap and I can guarantee they won't go anywhere, even without the strap and without the rubber padding on the helmet.

post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ScotsSkier View Post

Throw away the clip and use a couple of strips of Velcro in its place.  I do this with all my helmets  (including 2 pocs) and it works perfectly 


Ding! Ding! Ding!

I ended up using the velcro method.  works great.  My gogs don't have rubber on the strap and I'd rather spend $5 for the velcro then buy new gogs.  Thanks!

post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by Racer View Post

My clip works just fine. You might think of putting little velcro dots, which you can find

in the sewing department at Walmart, to hold the clip in place.

Yep, velcro works great!

post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

Go look at the side profile of a non-racing POC and get back to us about why they need a clip. The straps end up down on the neck. Silicon doesn't help. Honestly. 


We have POCs and that's what we do. Works fine. Honestly.
post #18 of 26
The clip blows. Got a kids helmet. Daughter already lost it during ski school
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
 

Go look at the side profile of a non-racing POC and get back to us about why they need a clip. The straps end up down on the neck. Silicon doesn't help. Honestly. 


I have a non-race POC helmet as well as the Sinuse SL helmet ... on neither do I use the clip, and neither has the pad like the hard-eared race helmets. My goggles stay up perfectly well (they do all have a silicon bead in the strap). Really. It's not a problem.

 

I've rarely seen anyone use the POC clip. It's clearly useless.

post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bruins14sammy View Post
 


I have a non-race POC helmet as well as the Sinuse SL helmet ... on neither do I use the clip, and neither has the pad like the hard-eared race helmets. My goggles stay up perfectly well (they do all have a silicon bead in the strap). Really. It's not a problem.

 

I've rarely seen anyone use the POC clip. It's clearly useless.


A lot of goggles don't have a silicon bead.  Guess it depends on the people you ski/board with.  What brand/type/name of goggles do you have?

post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by billskis View Post
 


A lot of goggles don't have a silicon bead.  Guess it depends on the people you ski/board with.  What brand/type/name of goggles do you have?

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by bruins14sammy View Post
 


I have a non-race POC helmet as well as the Sinuse SL helmet ... on neither do I use the clip, and neither has the pad like the hard-eared race helmets. My goggles stay up perfectly well (they do all have a silicon bead in the strap). Really. It's not a problem.

 

I've rarely seen anyone use the POC clip. It's clearly useless.

 

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Originally Posted by billskis View Post
 


A lot of goggles don't have a silicon bead.  Guess it depends on the people you ski/board with.  What brand/type/name of goggles do you have?

 

That's very true. But getting goggles with the bead is helpful for all helmets, regardless of brand. A better clip won't stop the strap from sliding, it just helps reduce the risk of losing the goggles should they slide.

 

As for me, I have a wide collection of POC and Shred frames.

post #22 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bruins14sammy View Post
 

 

 

 

 

That's very true. But getting goggles with the bead is helpful for all helmets, regardless of brand. A better clip won't stop the strap from sliding, it just helps reduce the risk of losing the goggles should they slide.

 

As for me, I have a wide collection of POC and Shred frames.


I can't afford to have more than one "frame" (you mean goggles, no?) 

Since I'm a klutz and lose most everything, I demand a clip.  So vecro is on it and I'm a happy camper.

post #23 of 26

Posted in another thread, more expensive than velcro, but likely a little more secure.

 

Started using these this year.  Fantastic product & rock solid attachment.  I doubt I'd be able to remove & switch to a new helmet.  Purchased for daughter's helmet that has a small brim, but ended up ordering a few sets for myself.  Micros are perfect.  $16 well spent.

http://www.gogglegrip.com/snow/

 

134795

post #24 of 26

+1 on these for POC's......  fixed once on 

post #25 of 26
Duct tape. Did that with my nephew's POC. Bonus: you'll fit right in at Alta or Telluride.
post #26 of 26

The clip lasted a month. Wrote to POC and got a very quick response from Joe with the news that a replacvement was in the mail. 2 day post. 

But really ... Great helmet, shouldn't need velcro or duct tape for a clip surely.?

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