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Foggy Goggles? Please help me for school project!

Poll Results: Do your goggles fog up much?

Poll expired: Mar 30, 2013 This is a multiple choice poll
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Yes- Alot
  • 14% of voters (2)
    Yes - Sometimes
  • 78% of voters (11)
    No - Not Really
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Never- Ever in the history of me skiing
  • 7% of voters (1)
    What is a goggle?
14 Total Votes  
post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 

Survey Questions


Thinking about your helmet and goggles, what’s the most annoying thing about using them?

Tell us about a time where you had a problem with visibility?  How do you deal with it?

What other gear/items to you carry with you on the mountain?

How do you use your gear (keep them on always, take them off, etc)?

Do you feel your equipment ever fails? What does a failure mode look like?

What feature(s) do you want to improve for your headgear?

 

Demographics


Age:      
Gender (M/F):    
What activities do you do that involves wearing helmet/goggles/mask:
Experience (Green/Blue/Black/DoubleBlack/Badass):
Days Per Year:
Average Runs Per Day:
Cost estimate for your goggles:
Cost estimate for your helmet:
What is the average life of each?:
Regions Frequented (Northeast/West Coast/Midwest/Europe/Other):

 

You rock!

 

Thanks,

 

David (Boston)

post #2 of 8

Ok, I'll play.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PdxSnowman View Post

Survey Questions


Thinking about your helmet and goggles, what’s the most annoying thing about using them?

Having them fog up.

Tell us about a time where you had a problem with visibility?  How do you deal with it?

I had my goggles fog up so I could not see the bumps, so I took the goggles off.  It wasn't so bad, because I had my glasses on anyway.  Problem was I used to not take them off until would almost kill myself launching off an unseen bump, because I didn't want to slow down.

 


What other gear/items to you carry with you on the mountain?

Skis, boots, helmet, mitts, poles if my arms are fully functional and clothing.



How do you use your gear (keep them on always, take them off, etc)?

All the gear all the time.

Do you feel your equipment ever fails? What does a failure mode look like?

Personally haven't had a "failure", though I have had problems with fogging.  It is better with my newer smaller glasses.  I can recall back in the day,  goggles always had too much venting (could not see because of tearing at high speeds, unless venting taped shut  with hockey tape (hey duck tape was invented in WWII, but it wasn't that popular even 30 years ago, or maybe hockey tape was cheaper, or maybe that's what I had. (now tthat problem fogging then is understandable).  What we need are goggles with adjustable venting, high-speed and low-speed.   Well actually I don't ski that fast anymore, so I guess I don't need it now.



What feature(s) do you want to improve for your headgear?

 

Make it warmer.

 

Demographics


Age:  I've been 18 for more than a few decades.
Gender (M/F):  M  
What activities do you do that involves wearing helmet/goggles/mask: ski
Experience (Green/Blue/Black/DoubleBlack/Badass):  I'm game for anything.
Days Per Year:  35 ish
Average Runs Per Day:  Whatever I can squeeze in from opening until I do the patrol sweep.
Cost estimate for your goggles:  $50 on sale a decade or two ago.
Cost estimate for your helmet:  $60. bucks at Costco
What is the average life of each?:  Probably about 20 years.  I can recall borrowing an old pair of goggles and having thefoam  disintegrates and get into my eyes.
Regions Frequented (Northeast/West Coast/Midwest/Europe/Other):  Currently in Eastern Canada (Ontario, Quebec) and Northern Vermont (read Jay Peak).  I used to ski Vancouver Island too.

 

You rock!

Heavily

Thanks,

No, thank you, it was fun playing.

David (Boston)

post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 

Thanks a bunch for your post... I am part of a Product Design and Development group and we are using your feedback to guide or design efforts for a really cool product. Those people who fill out this survey will be the first to demo this product when it comes out, as we will be looking again to receive feedback.

 

Also, if we go to full scale production, then there is a possibility of free equipment. . . Please fill out honestly and provide as much detail as you can.

 

Thanks again,

 

 

David
 

post #4 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by PdxSnowman View Post

Survey Questions


Thinking about your helmet and goggles, what’s the most annoying thing about using them?

If i get a hair or thread in the goggle, I got to take the goggle off to clear that out.  Yes that's as minor as it gets.

Tell us about a time where you had a problem with visibility?  How do you deal with it?

When I had to wear glasses once.  Then the glasses fogged up (the goggles are fine).  I bought a $2 antifog wipe in the proshop and this completely solved the fogging on the glasses. I have lasik now, and eyecare is important, so I have traded away my glasses for eyedrops.


What other gear/items to you carry with you on the mountain?

helmet, camelpack backpack.  Besides water, Backpack contains extra pair of goggles with the other lens for light transmission, eyedrops, sunscreen, liner gloves when gets really cold, extra thermal layer, fabric facemask, emergency flashlight,snacks (cliffbar) /candy.   This sounds like a long list, but really majority of those are small items that all fit just in the small top section of the pack.  The main usage of the pack is really just as a camelback waterbladder holder.


How do you use your gear (keep them on always, take them off, etc)?

All stays on except during lunch.  Rarely need to go into it unless conditions change or being helpful to my less prepared ski buddies.

 

Do you feel your equipment ever fails? What does a failure mode look like?

When i was first starting and falling a lot, then the falls that knock off your goggles would introduce snow into the goggles.  Then you get into fogging/visibility issues.  Granted this was also 20years ago with 20year old technology.

 

If you are in shape so you don't overheat, don't fall and don't get snow into the goggle, then any modern mid-ranged priced goggle does not have fogging issues-provided you've spent the time to learn  the basic information related to fogging and caring for your goggles.


What feature(s) do you want to improve for your headgear?

The phenom has all the features I need-the silicone band is something I don't have on my backup goggles, but that's an issue of me spending money to replace the backups.  Why is the price to buy new/replacement lenses just about the same as buying a new set of goggles with the frame.  
I suppose if I wanted to remove the need for backup goggles, I would try out either the smith i/o or the photochromic lenses, but again that requires me to spend money on technology that could fail (directed at the photochromic technology)

 

Demographics


Age:     30ish
Gender (M/F): M     
What activities do you do that involves wearing helmet/goggles/mask: ski.  although 
Experience (Green/Blue/Black/DoubleBlack/Badass): Double black, def not badass yet.
Days Per Year: 25
Average Runs Per Day: 20
Cost estimate for your goggles: smith phenoms with solx lens + a less expensive scott goggles that's cylindrical lens only.  Look up what these cost.  

Cost estimate for your helmet: giro seam
What is the average life of each?: less than 2years old.  All basically have lenses that have not had any collisions with anything, or have been wiped/ruined, so I do not expect them to wear out.

Regions Frequented (Northeast/West Coast/Midwest/Europe/Other):

West

 

You rock!

 

Thanks,

 

David (Boston)


Edited by raytseng - 2/23/13 at 6:36pm
post #5 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by PdxSnowman View Post

Survey Questions


Thinking about your helmet and goggles, what’s the most annoying thing about using them?
Fogging when in the bumps.
Tell us about a time where you had a problem with visibility?  How do you deal with it?
Last year I was in a Steep and Deep Camp at Jackson Hole and with temp close to freezing, I was having a lot of trouble with fogging. The problem crops up when stopping to discuss technique, and getting started again I would have to remove the goggles and wipe them out. This was a particular bother because I didn't want to hold the group up.
What other gear/items to you carry with you on the mountain?
Extra hand and head layers for late day temp drop. Water. Food. Kleenex. Sun block and Chapstick.
How do you use your gear (keep them on always, take them off, etc)?
On and off as conditions require.
Do you feel your equipment ever fails? What does a failure mode look like?
I sorted out the goggle problem when a gal I met in the Camp said she didn't have any problems. She recommended the Smith helmet-Prophesy goggle combination. The Prophesy has a well designed clip in system for a prescription lens insert that, so far, has solved the fogging problem.
What feature(s) do you want to improve for your headgear?

The Smith set up is pretty good. The vents on top and sides of the helmet open instantly with gloved hands and the combination with goggles is designed to vent very well with even low speeds.

Demographics


Age:    61  
Gender (M/F):   M 
What activities do you do that involves wearing helmet/goggles/mask:Skiing
Experience: DoubleBlack
Days Per Year: 35
Average Runs Per Day: 15
Cost estimate for your goggles: $150
Cost estimate for your helmet: $150
What is the average life of each?:
Regions Frequented: CA and Rockies

 

You rock!

 

Thanks,

 

David (Boston)

post #6 of 8

I don't care about fogging.  I don't care about stupid paint jobs, "celeb" (paid) endorsements or gimmicks.  I don't care about ridiculous electronics that tell me the tides and offer a real time stock market ticker in the bottom of my goggle frame.

 

I care about OPTICS.  I care about incredible range of vision, comfort, low weight, and flexibility.  I care about RX capabilities.

 

There it is.

 

 

 

 

WOW ME.

 

 

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Bri~

post #7 of 8

All that, and lenses that are less prone to scratching already, PLEASE!  In this day and age, can't we possibly get a lens that is more scratch resistant?  Truly.

post #8 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by PdxSnowman View Post

Survey Questions


Thinking about your helmet and goggles, what’s the most annoying thing about using them? Very few goggles actually fit my face.  I have a relatively flat nose bridge and most goggles leave a gap there. I want more manufacturers to make alternative fit models for different head/nose shapes.

Tell us about a time where you had a problem with visibility?  How do you deal with it? Wipeout resulted in a lot of snow getting on the inside of my goggles. I had to let them dry out before I could use them again.

What other gear/items to you carry with you on the mountain? Cable lock, lip sunscreen, wallet, car keys, chocolates, Sport Legs.

How do you use your gear (keep them on always, take them off, etc)? Which piece of gear? Goggles stay on, helmet stays on except if I stop for lunch or coffee, skis/snowboard stay on unless I crash or go indoors.

Do you feel your equipment ever fails? What does a failure mode look like? Sure, I've broken stuff.  I don't know what you want for "failure mode."

What feature(s) do you want to improve for your headgear? Better fit, less delicate goggle lenses (I want to be able to touch the inside of the lens without causing a scratch or loss of anti-fog coating). I want a better way to keep my face warm in howling, frigid winds -- neck gaiters and balaclavas have room for improvement.

 

Demographics


Age:  45
Gender (M/F):     M
What activities do you do that involves wearing helmet/goggles/mask: Ski, snowboard, mountain bike
Experience (Green/Blue/Black/DoubleBlack/Badass): Double black
Days Per Year: ~ 60
Average Runs Per Day: I don't count number of runs, but I usually go for 3-4 hours, 3-4 days per week.
Cost estimate for your goggles: Three goggles: $175, $150, $130
Cost estimate for your helmet: Two helmets: $160, $120
What is the average life of each?: 1-2 seasons
Regions Frequented (Northeast/West Coast/Midwest/Europe/Other): PNW and other parts of the Western US

 

You rock!

 

Thanks,

 

David (Boston)

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