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Just getting started...should I still buy now during end of season sales?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

I'm in a bit of a unique situation.

 

I'll be moving to Ogden this summer for work.  Prior to this year I had never skied in my life (grew up in Florida).  Upon finding out about the job, I immediately decided to try it out since I'd be in such a great ski locale.  I instantly fell in love.

 

This has put me into a bit of a tricky situation.  I know I'll be skiing a LOT next winter, and right now it looks like there are some great end of season deals going on.  However, I've only skied 4 days in my life and haven't even moved beyond the green runs yet.  Is it worth picking up a set of skis now while they're on sale?

 

If so, what should I be looking at?  I'm not expecting these to last me 10 years and if they got me through the next season or two I'd be ok with that.  It looks like evo.com has some good deals but it's all a bit overwhelming.  Ideally I'd find something that has a really good closeout price on there, but is also good for my very unique situation.

 

Height: 5'11"

Weight: 185lbs

Skill: Beginner but with a desire to get better

 

I'm going to go through and try and pick out some specifically that look like they might meet my needs, but I wanted to go ahead and get this up there if anyone had any insight from the get-go.

 

Or would I be better off just waiting and buying at closer to full price next season after I've gotten my legs under me a bit more?  I'll be waiting on boots to make sure I get a proper boot fitter (not gonna find a good one down here), but I'd imagine that a handful of ski rentals would get me to the price of some of the skis I'm looking at anyway.


Edited by Vcize - 2/21/13 at 9:38pm
post #2 of 15

There are 2 closeout sales, 

 

One end of season when the ski shops are closing up shop; 

And usually there is another sale during Fall/pre-season when they open up shop again and need to make room for the new incoming shipments.

 

A lot of it depends if you have a specific need, of course pickings get slimmer through each sale-specifically for rarer/more popular skis-You won't have this problem with more beginner/int packages.

 

So I would say, if you're not skiing on your skis until next season+ aren't looking for a specific ski, you can wait until you get to your location to catch the fall sales.  

If your home resort has Season pass discounted during the summer, you should research and keep an eye on that and buy that early.

 

Oh, and btw before someone else says it, you need to get fitted boots first as the most important thing (read articles).   (and you can ask about skis at the same time).

post #3 of 15

What Ray said.  From my experience off and on in the ski biz, there are always carryover or closeout deals at the beginning of the season for lower level skiers.

 

As said earlier, the boot is the most important fit, so do it right at the beginning of the season.  Get it over in one shot.

 

Dennis

post #4 of 15
totally agree with boot comments. would ski on picket fences but would have the best fitting boots i could get my hands on. Another option is to buy the used stuff other people are selling when they get a sweet late season deal. Your ability level is going to change so much in a year you may outgrow what you have super quickly. that said i just got some sweet new skis and bindings at half off their beginning of season price. tough to pass up. have fun
post #5 of 15
+4 on properly fitted boots first
post #6 of 15

Good advice on this thread.  Get your boots fit first and pay a premium if necessary to get it right.

 

At this stage of your career, any beginner-appropriate skis will do.  Pick up something reasonably forgiving in the summer - get help from a local specialty shop and don't overthink it and don't get fixated on any particular model.  The worst thing you can do is over research skis at this phase.  You don't know enough to even have personal preferences, let alone know what friends, reviews, etc. . . are talking about.  Don't focus on what people say about the skis on boards like this - no one here talks about the class of skis that will be best for you - and the skis that get love on boards like this are totally inappropriate for a rank beginner (in general).  

 

Find a local shop you trust.  Lean on a pro at that shop to get the initial set up right.  If you do that, you'll likely get hooked up perfectly without wasting your time analyzing stuff you don't have appropriate context yet to appreciate. Get boots fitted, let them pick an appropriate ski at a good price and come back for something else next February (when sales start) when you have logged some miles, have outgrown your skis and are ready for something else.  Your goal should be to improve so much in the first 2 months of the season that your initial skis have run their course, done their job.  Sell them back if that is an option (or dump them online), and declare victory.  Consider loss between purchase and sale as (a) a rental expense and (b) an investment in game improvement.

 

As they say, "marry your boots, date your skis." If you are moving to UT as a rank beginner, consider your first pair of ski a cheap 2-3 month date.  Have fun. 

post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone.

 

Don't worry, I'm fully aware of the importance of boots.  As mentioned in the OP, first thing I'll be doing at the start of ski season out in Utah will be going to a proper (possibly custom, as my feet are slightly different sizes) bootfitter.  The only reason I was waiting on that is that I figured I'd get much better help with that out in one of the country's best ski areas than I will here in southeastern TN :).  The only thought on picking up the ski's first was just to get them while they're cheap and throwing them in a closet until next season.  Either way I'd have both new boots and new skis before getting started in Utah.

 

It sounds like there is no need to rush out and get skis now, though, and that they'll be even cheaper later in the offseason.  So I suppose I will wait then.

post #8 of 15

I wanted to chime in here to offer my first-hand experience because I was in your shoes this time last season.

 

Had skied a few times in previous years, but never progressed, and I hadn't been "bitten by the bug" until probably my second to last time skiing last season.

 

Went into a local shop and wanted to take full advantage of the end of season sale. Most everything was 50-60% off.

 

I bought a beginner ski in a length that is shorter than I should've gotten. 

 

 

 

My advice may differ from some others here in that as far as your ski, don't be afraid to get one made for an intermediate. Definitely get something that is "aspiring-intermediate" or whatever term they use, but don't limit yourself by getting a beginner ski. I really wish I would've bought something I could have grown into so-to speak, and wouldn't feel the need to upgrade already.

 

The above is just my advice based on my own experience, and is worth exactly what you paid for it.

 

Also, boots are the most important as others have said. Spend most of your money there if you can because an ill-fitting boot will make any ski feel like crap and you just won't get the same enjoyment out of it.

post #9 of 15

Even though boots are the most important item, you don't have to buy them first.  You need everything, gloves, goggles, clothing.  I'd watch the net and pick stuff up as the deals come up.

Then when you get to Ogden, find a good bootfitter.

post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Vcize View Post

Thanks everyone.

Don't worry, I'm fully aware of the importance of boots.  As mentioned in the OP, first thing I'll be doing at the start of ski season out in Utah will be going to a proper (possibly custom, as my feet are slightly different sizes) bootfitter.  The only reason I was waiting on that is that I figured I'd get much better help with that out in one of the country's best ski areas than I will here in southeastern TN smile.gif.  The only thought on picking up the ski's first was just to get them while they're cheap and throwing them in a closet until next season.  Either way I'd have both new boots and new skis before getting started in Utah.

It sounds like there is no need to rush out and get skis now, though, and that they'll be even cheaper later in the offseason.  So I suppose I will wait then.

Yep, a clarification is activity will pick up pre/early season, so expect a lull during summer. The only other tip is do give the actual ski shop a chance for skis while you do your boots. You may find they can be price competative with the internet, and you have the benefits of buying local.

They should be able to help point you towards a great value first ski but expect to go for an "all-mountain" ski about 80mm in waist, with an integrated system binding, and about chin to nose length.
post #11 of 15

No hurry. The deals only get better as the season comes to an end and then stretches into summer.  I don't bother looking until May or so.  

 

If you buy a pair of name-brand skis (either used but recent or summer overstocks) you will probably be able to ski them for a season and sell them at a swap at the beginning of the next season for about what you paid for them. So no need to stress about buying the perfect ski - just get something to get you through the first season and move on once you have a lot more miles under your bases.

 

As for a specific model, I'd recommend something like a K2 Rictor or Aftershock.  These are pretty forgiving easy skis that still have some level of performance.  A bit of rocker (but not too much) and a moderate width (80-85mm) should get you started in Ogden. 

post #12 of 15

As others said, boot's are that important.

 

Skis you can find over the internet at any time.

 

Or like others hinted at. Find a great boot fitter on here in Ogden. Build a long term relationship with that shop. You'll get great customer service and deals on other stuff.

 

Someone on here must know a great boot fitter in Ogden.

 

I also agree with at least buying a mid level ski. Salomon may have something in a low 80's waist that has little or no metal in it.

 

I tend to like metal in my skis, but for your first serious season stay with a soft ski.

 

Welcome to the sport.

post #13 of 15

Here's a pretty good post about decent end of season sales, so if you were looking to buy now for a discount, its probably best to read that and check out those sales first - you can get some really good bargains at this time of year. The only problem is not being able to use them properly for another 9 months or so!

 

Here's a lonk to that blog post: http://www.mountago.com/blog/top-ski-sales

post #14 of 15

If you are moving to Ogden and will be skiing a good amount, you will not be a beginner for long. In fact you will not be in your first boots for more than a season or two, you will out perform them pretty quickly too. You still want something that will fit you correctly, it is just that you will be in a more compliant boot at first. Track down 4ster here on Epic, he is a high level instructor at Snowbasin, he could direct you to a fitter in that region and he is someone who you can start working with in instruction. 

post #15 of 15

Here in CO, I have seen places like Breezes have season long demo packages available for a good price (under $200)- something like this would allow you to try out a different ski each time you go up.  Not sure about the availability of this in Utah, but this would allow you to try a bunch of different skis/sizes and tweak your preferences as your abilities improve.  My guess is that you will want a shorter (and likely lighter/softer) ski at the start of the season than you will at the end of the season (similar to what Phil said about boots).  

 

Used skis is another idea as you will likely want to change sooner rather than later if you ski a lot.

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