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What would Fire Arrow 84 EDT bring me over Bonafides??

post #1 of 19
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6 foot 195 lb advancing skier who loves skiing and the gear that comes with it. Live in MN skiing Welch Village with 3 west trips mixed in annually. One more trip to Grand Targhee beginning of April. I have Bonafides 2013 model in 187. Thinking about getting something a little more for around here in MN and early mornings this spring in Targhee after a night freeze for groomers. Will the FA 84 EDT be a bit more fun on groomers and perhaps help me work on technique?
post #2 of 19

No................

 

The FA 84 EDT will be a lot more fun on groomers and will make you work on technique. If you want help.....eek.gif......buy a K2.

 

SJ
 

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Originally Posted by Yeagema View Post

6 foot 195 lb advancing skier who loves skiing and the gear that comes with it. Live in MN skiing Welch Village with 3 west trips mixed in annually. One more trip to Grand Targhee beginning of April. I have Bonafides 2013 model in 187. Thinking about getting something a little more for around here in MN and early mornings this spring in Targhee after a night freeze for groomers. Will the FA 84 EDT be a bit more fun on groomers and perhaps help me work on technique?

 

As SJ said: not just a bit more fun.  More like climbing out of your Tacoma and getting into a Porsche Cayman S.  Do it! That is such a great ski, so smooth, powerful, just a great balance between GS dampness and predictability, vs, snap in the tail and wicked across the hill acceleration of a carver. The Bonafide holds well, but is nothing like a carver; this is a huge upgrade on groomers (bumps too!). 

post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thank you for your input. I have the Bonafied in 187. Would the Fire Arrow in 176 be ok for me?
post #5 of 19

You are pretty close to average sized and that generally speaks to the 176. Given the intended usage of that type of ski, the 175-178 range is usually the preferred length. It certanily won't lack for stability assuming that you what edge angle is all about.

 

SJ

post #6 of 19

oh, and wear a helmet!  Yes to all above. this is a fun razor-accurate carver that will hookup from tip to tail - and I mean tip. The design of this ski is such that tipping it over will create immediate hookup. Fun, fun, fun. 

 

 

- not sure if you need to go with the EDT, the Pro for 2014 is plenty if you are waiting....

post #7 of 19

Great answers and spot on! Very fun, powerful ski. If I were based in the Midwest, it'd be on my short list to own. 

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Great answers and spot on! Very fun, powerful ski. If I were based in the Midwest, it'd be on my short list to own. 

 

Great ski to have out here in the west too. For when it has snowed like 4" in six weeks.

 

SJ

post #9 of 19

The FA84 Pro is a great ski in powder...edge deep powder. 

 

Here is my REVIEW

post #10 of 19
Never been on thr Bonafides, but demoed the EDT and the 2014 Pro.
I really thought that the Pro model for 2014 was veey good.
It was fast to initiate, held a great edge from tip to tail and felt like it had no speed limit. It was all done on groomers.

I tried the EDT and only had two runs on it, so its not the best way to judge I would think, bit it was too stiff for me. I'm 6', 165lbs and rode both in 176.
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Originally Posted by StoicDude View Post

Never been on thr Bonafides, but demoed the EDT and the 2014 Pro.
I really thought that the Pro model for 2014 was veey good.
It was fast to initiate, held a great edge from tip to tail and felt like it had no speed limit. It was all done on groomers.

I tried the EDT and only had two runs on it, so its not the best way to judge I would think, bit it was too stiff for me. I'm 6', 165lbs and rode both in 176.

 

Absolutely no doubt that the incoming 2014 Pro is a more accessible ski. The EDT requires someone "wit some skeelz" while the 2014 pro rewards skills but doesn't demand 'em.

 

SJ

post #12 of 19
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I tried the EDT and only had two runs on it, so its not the best way to judge I would think, bit it was too stiff for me. I'm 6', 165lbs and rode both in 176.

I demoed the EDT yesterday at Snowbasin and was really impressed. I found it to be a seriously fun ski for ripping down the runs, very responsive and quick. I'm 5' 8", 150 pounds and did not think it was too stiff. I skied it on very hard groomers with and without loose snow them. It just crushed it all. If I wanted a ski mostly for groomers, this would probably be the top of my list.
post #13 of 19

I'm the same morph as MTCyclist, and have found the EDTs to be exactly as he described them - damn near perfect for firm groomers.  If the Pros are a little less stiff, then it sounds like they might lean a little more towards softer snow.

post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the info. To add one more kink in the decision. Blizzard 8.0 ti. I can pick this up for quite a bit less than the FA 84 EDT. Would I be losing a lot going with the 8.0 ti? What would differentiate the two. Again, looking for more fun front side ski that will help me on my technique. Also will likely use front side in mornings on our Spring Break trip to Grand Targhee first week of April.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

The FA84 Pro is a great ski in powder...edge deep powder. 

 

Here is my REVIEW

I like that.  It is a lot of ski.  Something more forgiving would be appropriate if you are not real skilled.

post #16 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the knowledge. Just purchased Nordica Fire Arrow 84 EDT this morning. Giving them a run tomorrow!!
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
I would say that the analogy by dawgcatching stating that it would be like going from a Tacoma to a Porsche Caymen S is spot on. Wow is the Fire Arrow 84 EDT a brilliant and fun ski. Had no idea what I was missing. The instructor that I have been working with will be happy as well. This ski rocks!
post #18 of 19
Glad ýou like it. You obviously have some skills or you would not enjoy it..
post #19 of 19

Yeag,  I might be interested in the blizzards if you are selling.  I live in MN as well (prior lake).      I've got some Fischer GS racing for the groomers and racing already,  but looking for an all mountain such as the bonafides for other conditions and skiing out west.

 

Thanks.
 

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