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I normally ski in MN and as you can imagine the hills here are no comparison to the length of the runs in say Colorado. So while at home on short runs my legs never got sore as I probably spent more time on the lift than the hills here.


Well low and behold I was just out in Colorado for a week skiing A-Basin and Copper and let me tell you after a day of skiing my legs were fried. Upper legs were so sore I couldn’t even ski and ended up taking a breather day in between my ski days. I mountain bike all summer and am in decent shape so I was baffled as to why my legs would hurt so bad  after one good day of skiing? I figured I was dehydrated so I drank a couple gallons of water and a ton of Gatorade and no improvement. Then I figured it was my technique as I have heard people talk about this happening to people who ski in the back seat. I really stay over the front of my skis so this was not the issue either.


I started doing some research on some forums and I discover that boot and binding manufacturers are not exactly on the same page as far as ramp angles with each piece of gear compounding the effects of the other. I then realize that standing in the lift line I feel like I am falling over forward and straining to stay back on my skis, which was killing my legs.


I went to a reputable boot fitter in Frisco and told them about my issue. They literally looked at me like I had a chicken on my head. I suggested that I thought the ramp angle was too sever on my set-up and asked them if they could look it over and tell me what they thought. I suggested shimming the front binding and they poo poo’d that idea right off the bat. My boots fit like a glove and could ski for them in days with no pain and I had awesome control in them.


I currently ride a pair of K2 Fujas in a 189cm with some marker Griff bindings mounted flat at the mid-point of the ski.   I am about 5’8 and 220 #’s, hockey player type body and have been skiing for 30 years. I wouldn’t class myself as an expert but certainly very advanced as far as skill level.


They first told me my skis were way too long, which I skied 195’s on old straight skis and could point them down most any hill at any time. They asked why I wanted the skis I have? I told them I wanted the 95 under foot so I could get some float in mild powder, the fujas ski is super soft and playful so it wasn’t like I couldn’t out muscle the ski, to me personally with them being twin tips they ski like a 180 but that is just my opinion and sometimes I like to jump or screw around in the terrain park.   They told me there is no way this ski would even work on  groomers, which I personally think it skis pretty well on groomers considering the width it was certainly soft enough to be flexed into making decent turns.


They finally suggested mounting the ski back to the traditional mounting point and agreed to shim the front binding. Low and behold, no more leg pain!


So my question, is there a list anywhere of ramp angles by binding manufacturer or boot manufacturer?


Why were they so hesitant to shim the front binding? They literally thought I was nuts for suggesting it.