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2014 nordica dobermann spitfire...need additional info

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxfg7e_nouveautes-ski-nordica-2014-skieur-com_sport?search_algo=2#.USMfMhG9KSM

Lost my 2011 dobermann spitfires when they were stolen last year. One of my all time favs; no rocker, eased off gs tail, slalom nose. They turned very nicely for me. Could push them as fast, as I ever cared to go. Long turns, mid length turns...no matter. Great coaching ski.

Came across a video discussing the 2014 lineup. I do not speak French. I cannot understand the rep. and the information.

Does anyone have info on the 2014 nordica spitfire lineup (appears to be 3 versions)?


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxfg7e_nouveautes-ski-nordica-2014-skieur-com_sport?search_algo=2#.USMfMhG9KSM
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Anyone?
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I hear the Spitfire is not coming to the US.....I am not happy......

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I agree the spitfire pro rocks! I demoed a lot of skis this year and for me they stood out so i went and brougth the demo!

Anyway here's the jist of what he is saying in the video

-still three models, the one with the edt plate, the pro and the ti versions
-the sidecut has changed
-they have a new nose that is more racelike
-they have a new structure
-they also have a flat surface now instead of having the side beefed up


Hum he didn't give much details but too me it sounds like they changed everything!


Edit: they may not be available in the us but are available in canada.
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The ski in the video is the Dobermann GSr, the "Masters" recreational racing ski. it is available as the GSr and also the SLr. 

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Serious.  I'd paid in full, upfront for a pair of the "flat" Spitfires right now!  Sure hope that I can get a Euro model or better yet...order a US pair.

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Yes, sir.

 

At about 1:30 into the video, he shows the Spitfires.

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

The ski in the video is the Dobermann GSr, the "Masters" recreational racing ski. it is available as the GSr and also the SLr. 

 

Yes, sir.

 

At about 1:30 into the video, he shows the Spitfires.

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Try this link I found looking for the Nordica Dobermann Spitfire XBI 2014. It seems that next year's model will come with a bit o rocker at the tip and tail..., I hope it will behave the same as the former models. Since I`m in Argentina, South America and we are NOW in winter, chances are that you will be able to get the 2014 model before I do. If you do get it, I would appreciate a few lines describing the performance of the ski.

 

http://www.sportmania.ch/en/ski-nordica-dobermann-spitfire-ti-2014.html

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Start Haus has some 2013 Spitfires if anyone is interested. 

 

HERE 

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The specs on the Spitefire EVO EDT, Spitefire EVO and the Spitefire TI EVO are not exactly the same, but certainly similar. Does anyone know if there is much difference in the way they ski?

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Picked up the Spitfire pro from start haus. Can't wait to make turns on it. Looks much improved over previous pair.

Beautiful.
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I too picked up a set of the 2013 Spitfire Pro's from Start Haus and have been scouring the interwebz trying to get some feedback on it while I wait to ski it.

Problem seems it was a rarity in North America so little in the way of English language reviews.

It is possible to find some in other languages so Google Translate has been a very useful tool in getting some info.

I wanted a front side carver; something with a <15m radius and about 170cm. I could not pass up the Start Haus deal, but will admit I did want the EDT...but just was not willing to do a 178 in such a focused ski at my weight and where I would use the ski (I'm 170lbs nekid so could have even gone down but did not need or want all of the edge of the 178 nor the slightly larger radius).

I also picked up a pair of the Fire Arrow 74 EDT's in the 172 in the event the FA's were much more similar to the Spitfire EDT's that I thought I wanted...I'll just sell the pair I was not going to keep.

So I now have both sets of skis. The FA EDT is retarded stiff. I am shocked that there are some reviews that make this ski out to be anything less than a very focused frontside scalpel...but then again, I'm just going by the incredibly firm flex of the ski (which is not enough to go by, of course).

Dawgcatching has a review on the Dob Spitfire EDT from '12 or '13 (same ski both years) on here and pretty much summed up what I would assume it would be like if it flexes anything like the FA EDT: incredibly stiff; very race ski like; nervous; focused.

From what I pulled from a very comprehensive German site was that the Pro was very well liked and more friendly than the EDT. But those euros love their carvers and clearly demand race like performance....so the EDT was equally loved, if not more so.

And this is where I think there is a big difference in what North Americans are looking for in the front side carvers relative to the Euros. Look at North American reviews of the Dynastar Course Ti or Head Supershape Magnum. The are both lauded as being top of their class front side rippers and generally garner nothing but the highest praise. In Europe: not so much: both are regarded as good but when the speeds got up they wanted more and got mostly mixed reviews.

Anyway, it's like any other ski, depending on who is skiing it and on what day and in what conditions you will get all kinds of opinions, but the Dob Spitfire Pro seems to come out as a ski along the same lines as the Course Ti or the Head SS Magnum (the DIMS and flex are certainly similar). The EDT version, I believe, steps it up into a very stiff "always on" chassis, if you will.

Anyway, bla bla bla. I'm looking forward to skiing both of these but just based on flex, I do believe I'll be parting ways with the FA EDT's. They are just crazy stiff.
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