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Winter Park to Steamboat?

post #1 of 28
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A friend and I will be in Winter Park skiing from 2/3 to 2/8 (5 of 6 day lift ticket) and was hoping to get to Steamboat for a day. I'm going with a group by bus from DIA to WP, so we won't have our own transportation. Seems like the recent snow has been favoring Steamboat, so we'd love to find a way to get there for 1 day, but looks like that's probably not a simple task. I can't seem to even find a rental agency in WP to rent a car for a day. Does anyone know if there is any kind of bus that runs from WP to the Boat, or anywhere else just to ski somewhere different for a day, assuming WP conditions remain average. I guess we could always hire a private limo, etc of some sort, but probably be very expensive.

We are also considering a Powder Addiction snow cat trip, but not sure conditions in the WP area are worthy of that kind of $$ right now. Any suggestions for our 6th day?
post #2 of 28
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A friend and I will be in Winter Park skiing from 2/3 to 2/8 (5 of 6 day lift ticket) and was hoping to get to Steamboat for a day. I'm going with a group by bus from DIA to WP, so we won't have our own transportation. Seems like the recent snow has been favoring Steamboat, so we'd love to find a way to get there for 1 day, but looks like that's probably not a simple task. I can't seem to even find a rental agency in WP to rent a car for a day. Does anyone know if there is any kind of bus that runs from WP to the Boat, or anywhere else just to ski somewhere different for a day, assuming WP conditions remain average. I guess we could always hire a private limo, etc of some sort, but probably be very expensive.

We are also considering a Powder Addiction snow cat trip, but not sure conditions in the WP area are worthy of that kind of $$ right now. Any suggestions for our 6th day?

 

I think you already missed the bus...

post #3 of 28

Greyhound I believe still runs between WP and Steamboat... but I doubt the schedule would allow you to do it as a day trip.  That's the only option I'm aware of.

post #4 of 28
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I think you already missed the bus...

Sometimes, I'm not so smart. Could you elaborate a bit? confused.gif
post #5 of 28
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I think you already missed the bus...

  you posted the dates as 2/3 to 2/8  did you mean 3/2 to 3/8?

post #6 of 28

I googled "car rental winter park, co" and got at least three nearby hits:

In Fraser: Hertz and Fraser car rentals
In Grandby: avalanche car rental

post #7 of 28
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I think you already missed the bus...
  you posted the dates as 2/3 to 2/8  did you mean 3/2 to 3/8?

Oh crap! I knew I must have missed something fairly obvious. He even quoted it in bold. redface.gif Yeah, I meant to say 3/3 to 3/8. Thanks!
post #8 of 28
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Oh crap! I knew I must have missed something fairly obvious. He even quoted it in bold. redface.gif Yeah, I meant to say 3/3 to 3/8. Thanks!

Don't worry, he's a hell of a guy and Shirley won't think too badly of you =)

 

 

The free WP bus system will take you To Fraser so it shouldn't be difficult to get Hertz or Fraser Car Rentals as James suggested.

 

Have fun!

post #9 of 28
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Yeah, I had Googled that stuff a few months ago and for some reason came up empty (I think). I got confused because when you go to the Hertz website it does not give you any locations at all in Fraser or nearby. But I just called the number that Google listed and it's some home rental agency that does have about 4 Hertz cars they will rent for ~$100/day. A little steep, but not too bad.

Then I called Fraser Car rentals and it's a towing company that has 2 vehicles they can rent. About 1/2 the price of Hertz and the tow-guy seemed like a decent guy on the phone anyhow, so that might be a good option. Thanks!

Of course if WP gets a big dump we'll be happy to stay put, but we usually chase the snow away wherever we go.

BTW - anyone know anything about the Powder Addiction snowcat operation?
post #10 of 28
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Don't worry, he's a hell of a guy and Shirley won't think too badly of you =)

 

 

 

post #11 of 28
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BTW - anyone know anything about the Powder Addiction snowcat operation?

I skied with PA last season.  It was a bad day -- no snow for several weeks, very hard or slabby, and perhaps 2-3 lines of soft snow that were maybe 100 feet long.  That being said, the Jones Pass area where they go looks like it has some awesome terrain.  You just need to add snow.

 

Nice guys. 

 

Mike

post #12 of 28
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Thanks, Mike. Sounds like it could be good. They're not too booked up so far for the week we're there, so I think we'll take a chance and see if there is still something open when we're out there and if they get some new snow . Haven't kept up too much with the weather, but seems like that area is a bit thin for this time of year?
post #13 of 28
The WP area has been over achieving in recent storms and both the short and mid range forecast is good. Nothing epic, but conditions are by far the best they have been in the last two seasons. Right now I would think a PA trip would pay some dividends...call them?
post #14 of 28
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I was looking at the terrain on Google Earth and some video clips I found online and it looks like it could be a great time. As of now though, they still have a lot of open spots even in the immediate week ahead. In fact, too many open spots where it looks possible they might not have enough to operate a few days. So, I'll wait a bit longer and see how the weather forecast looks, but I'm very inclined to go at this point. We did a trip with Monarch a few years ago and it was a blast!
post #15 of 28
4 storms coming through in the next 7 days, including the first one right now. The next 3 will favor the northern resorts more...your timing could be quite good.
post #16 of 28
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I know. I'm getting that sense. In fact I'm starting to feel a "Chris Matthews tingle" going up my leg! wink.gif Also just picked up a pair of 112 Wailer RP's. Might be a perfect storm coming....
post #17 of 28

Just a couple of points you may already know:

 

If the roads are good, the drive from WP to Steamboat is about 2 hours. If the roads aren't good, it will be a very long day.

 

You have Long Island posted as your location. Assuming that's where you live, you may find that the 9,000 ft base elevation at WP is brutal. Many visitors are ready to take a break by day 3, especially if the powder, trees and bumps are good and on your "to do" list.

Just a thought.

 

Steamboat is lower, with a 7,000 ft base elevation.

post #18 of 28
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Hey, I live at 142 feet above sea level here on the North Shore of Long Island, so I'm partially acclimated already! I've been to most of the Colorado resorts over the years (almost all but WP, and Steamboat and Wolf Creek). Also spent a week at the base of Taos at 9,200' So, I know the routine pretty well, but appreciate the advice.

I've been taking my Ginko Biloba, and just picked up my scripts in case I get the occasional case of exercise & cold induced asthma. Last time I hiked to the top of Highland Bowl in 2004, I did it on about half a lung after getting a bad case which sent me to the hospital later that night. Now I prepare, just in case, but haven't had a big problem in a while.

I'll sleep like crap and have a headache and cotton mouth for a few days. Keep a bottle of water next to my bed, and not drink too much (at first). Probably try to bang out 6 nearly full days as usual though, if I can. Although a little out of shape this year. Pow, bumps, trees and hiking (it worthwhile) are all on my list and I'll move off to the side to let the locals pass me. We'll probably only consider a long road trip if WP gets boring (never been there, so no idea) and only if snow is far better within range for a day trip. If Monarch gets another epic dump, we'd even consider dumping our pre-paid ticket for a day at WP and head down there for a 2 day trip. We are desperate for powder and as a small 2-man strike team, we can move out in a moments notice (well at least it sounds good now).

I'd be pretty stoked to just get a 6" dump overnight one midweek day, but one day it's coming, the next day it's not depending on who you listen to. As usual for us, Vermont is getting it now, while we head in (possibly) the wrong direction. As a consolation to no powder, BTW, I'll take an epic warm sunny Colorado day anytime almost as gladly as a powder day. Right now I'm struggling with the horrible notion of being sensible and leaving my brand new Wailer 112RP's home in favor of 2 more moderate pairs. All part of the fun, I guess!
post #19 of 28

Well, there's hope. Colo has improved substantially in the last couple of weeks, and March is usually pretty good.

 

I wouldn't be able to tell you whether you'll be happy at WP for 6 days straight or not. That's your call. When I lived down there, I routinely skied 60 or more days a season. Bump runs could be skied repeatedly with a different line every run. We commonly used unmarked tree lines, too. Plus I spent plenty of time being a Ski Geek (TM) - drills, clinics, teaching, etc.

 

The tree skiing has opened up since I left, thanks to the Mountain Pine Beetle and the chainsaw.

 

Many of Mary Jane's bump runs saw surprisingly little traffic when I was there. Despite huge lines at the Summit or Challenger lifts, you could have Long Haul or Needle's Eye all to yourself. Sleeper, on the other hand, is a zoo that is best avoided. There are too many people on it who don't ski as well as they think they do.

 

The express to the top of Parsenn Bowl, along with more beetle and chainsaw work, has opened up the runs off Parsenn, and they are skied a lot more than they used to be. Tight, seldom skied tree lines are now semi-open intermediate runs.

 

Winter Park is not known for steeps. They have some, but they're short.

 

Steamboat isn't known for steeps, either.

 

As for bringing your Wailers - I probably wouldn't, but what do I know? I ski Whitewater on a pair of old Mantras - 96 underfoot, with conventional sidecut and camber. I've been back to Winter Park a couple of times since moving to Canada, and the Mantras have never been on the snow there.

 

Edit: I'll revise that. Take the Wailers if it's not too much trouble. You could get lucky, and you'll hate yourself if you don't have them.

post #20 of 28
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Well, there's hope. Colo has improved substantially in the last couple of weeks, and March is usually pretty good.

 

 

Classic Jane day today.  Report was 6" (most of it skied yesterday) reality was boot top light cream cheese all over the mountain.  More storms supposedly on the way.

post #21 of 28
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Edit: I'll revise that. Take the Wailers if it's not too much trouble. You could get lucky, and you'll hate yourself if you don't have them.

Well; they're freshly waxed and ready to go so I'll probably bring them. If I have to ski bumps all week though, I can always rent for a day or two if my Blizzard Magnum 8,7's seem like too much work, but they should be ok for almost anything short of a legit powder day. I was considering bringing my Head iM78's as my 2nd ski, but it's easier to find a similar ski to those, than the Wailers if I were to leave them behind.

Looks like there could be 4-8" on Monday morning according to snowforecast.com. Still waiting to see Gratz's latest prediction - nothing updated so far today.
post #22 of 28

Take the Wailers and the 8.7's.  Keep an eye on the weather and if it looks good, give Powder Addiciton a try.   My buddy Chip owns it.  He keeps begging be to come for a visit, but I haven't made it down there yet.   My friends that have all had a good time.

post #23 of 28
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Take the Wailers and the 8.7's.  Keep an eye on the weather and if it looks good, give Powder Addiciton a try.   My buddy Chip owns it.  He keeps begging be to come for a visit, but I haven't made it down there yet.   My friends that have all had a good time.

That's what I'm going to bring. Late next week is looking like there might be a chance for some good snow. Checking on Pow Addiction's website, they're full on Sunday, then it looks like there are 0 skiers booked M,T,W & Fri. They need a minimum of 6 to go, so looks like the only day there might be a chance is Thursday which has just 2 spots left. I'm not sure conditions are worth committing $400 to right now. Might make a last minute decision when we get out there and take a chance on those final spots. Price is a bit on the steep (for us), especially after doing Monarch a few years ago for much less, so I'd like to have a pretty good idea we wouldn't be skiing windslab, etc. A little puzzling too why there are so few bookings. I have no doubt they can find some good snow somewhere, and it could be a great time. I checked out the terrain for Pow Addiction on Google Earth and in some videos I found. Looks like pretty good terrain with some fun tree skiing though.
post #24 of 28
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Hey Shredhead! Heading out with Pow Addiction in 30 minutes. Skiing at WP has been fabulous! Report to follow.
post #25 of 28

Say hello to Chip.   Glad you've had good conditions!

post #26 of 28
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Well, here's the quick trip report for Powder Addiction: In a nutshell - great operation. Office is located right in the base village. We met "trailboss" Jamie, and one of our other guides, Tony at 7:30 in the office. I had my 112 Wailers, so didn't need skis, but they set up my friend Steve with 2 different pair of fat pow skis, free of charge and he brought them both to see which ones he preferred. After a 30 minute drive, we boarded the cat at Jones Pass with a total of 7 skiers and 3 guides. It was a spectacularly warm and sunny day, which followed an even warmer one, so unfortunately conditions were not quite perfect. Snow was certainly untracked everywhere, but surface conditions varied quite a bit. The fatter skis seemed to work best because there was a fair amount of wind-loaded snow which was a bit crusty. Nothing terrible, but it took some commitment to the turn and good balance. We did find some very good soft powder on a few aspects as well, which skied great.

Most of the runs were a bit on the short side, but it seemed this was mostly due to rather high avy danger in many areas and the fact that the snow was so untracked in some areas that the cat actually had trouble getting up some of the steeper sections. The cat was very comfortable and there was plenty of water and the packed lunch was filling and very good. All the guides were excellent and we did ski as much as we could handle. By 2:30 most of our legs were shot and we headed down for a beer or two.

Chip was not around, but I did ask about him. Powder Addiction is a very nice operation and I wouldn't hesitate to hook up with them again when I'm in the area. I also enjoyed the fact that that they encouraged everyone to take a ride up front in the cat too on the ride up. It was very impressive to watch these guys operate the cat and do some "road building." It would have been an epic day if we had hit this a few days earlier or later, but as it was, a sunny warm day with zero wind was the next best thing.

Here's one photo from the cat trip:



I'll try to upload a few more tomorrow.
post #27 of 28

Glad you had a good experience!  

 

Mike

post #28 of 28
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Oh...thanks for reminding me. Here's a few more, as promised:









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