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Made a vid of me skiing 2 - MA

post #1 of 10
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heres my 1st thread: http://www.epicski.com/t/118084/made-a-vid-of-me-skiing

 

this is the 2nd one, now I made my buddy vid me skiing from the outside, here are the vids:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIJytXgImJ0&feature=youtu.be

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvg7aOY6mME&feature=youtu.be

 

1st vid I was going very slow and doing some shorter turns, hopefuly u can see my form and technique well so you can tell me what im doing good/bad, and what I should work on.

2nd I was going a bit faster not so much turning, my buddy missed to vid me from the side tho.

 

Also rate the vids, did I made them good or should I change something next time so you guys can judge/rate better?

post #2 of 10
You look tense, your whole body was basically the same shape throughout the turns, and weight is quite far back.

Take a look at these videos, they helped me a lot when I was starting. http://www.youtube.com/user/LasseLyck
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Originally Posted by jzmtl View Post

You look tense, your whole body was basically the same shape throughout the turns, and weight is quite far back.

Take a look at these videos, they helped me a lot when I was starting. http://www.youtube.com/user/LasseLyck


I agree, relax let the skis do the work, get outta the backseat, the vids suggested will help alot

post #4 of 10

While it's a good idea to learn on gentle slopes....I think this hill is too flat.  It doesn't really lend itself to teaching you how to turn.  The problem is, if you turn too much, you'll start to slow down too much so you stop turning....you just end up turning a little bit each time and kind of going straight.  Go to a slightly steeper slope and learn to actually do a full turn.

 

Also, your body position is WAY WAY too far back.  You need to not be afraid of the hill.  It completely goes against your instincts as a human being, but you have to learn to fight it.  Feel the shins pressured hard against the front of the boots. 

 

I can go on and on with pages of stuff you need to learn to do, but at this point of your skiing, it's really hard to teach and learn from comments on the internet.  Your learning needs to happen on the snow, not on the forums.  You really need a live coach to show you exactly what to do and give you immediate and constant feedback on what you're doing.  I highly recommend lessons.

 

MAs on here are good if you have a decent understanding of skiing fundamentals and you need to find a couple things you can work on.  For you though, you really just need to learn how to ski, and that happens on the snow (ideally with an instructor).

post #5 of 10
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Yeah I guess im too stiff, im trying rly hard to not move my upper body at all since I read that the legs should do all the working so im trying hard to make my upper body not move and be pretty stiff.

And yeah backseat seems to be quite a big issue, for example on these vids I was really trying to bend my knees forward and when I was skiing I feelt like my knees were really bent ( I was feeling alot of pressure on the front of my boot, feelt like my boot stoped me from bending them more even ), and then I watched the vid and to my suprize my knees are not bend at all and im pretty back..

majorato should I make a vid on steeper slope next time? I wanted to make it on this flat one so my movements were very slow so it would be easyer to see the movements and so.. Im gonna get instructions probably in like 2 weeks, atm I don't have money but I want to work hard to improve some things till then, so its gonna be easyer for the instructor aswell as me to improve further.

I really need to figure out a way to not be on my backseat but as I said it feelt almost as my boots are stoping me from bending my knees forward here so it feelt like they were very bent while in reality they weren't, so thats a bit idk..
 

post #6 of 10

I don't agree that the slope is too flat. Steeper skiing can hide deficiencies, but they are still there.

 

I'm glad that I ski in a part of the world where the slopes are not that crowded... :-)

 

I sent you a PM before, don't know if you saw that.

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Originally Posted by iLoveSkiing View Post

Yeah I guess im too stiff, im trying rly hard to not move my upper body at all since I read that the legs should do all the working so im trying hard to make my upper body not move and be pretty stiff.
And yeah backseat seems to be quite a big issue, for example on these vids I was really trying to bend my knees forward and when I was skiing I feelt like my knees were really bent ( I was feeling alot of pressure on the front of my boot, feelt like my boot stoped me from bending them more even ), and then I watched the vid and to my suprize my knees are not bend at all and im pretty back..

 
Well, I think you are misinterpreting it. what it means is you should start a turn by moving skis with your legs, not by throwing your upper body towards the direction of turn in order to spin your body around, but your upper body should not be kept static. Use your hip and waist joints to keep your upper body upright while legs leaning into the turn, and facing straight downhill while your legs and feet move towards the turn.

Your lower leg is encased in your boots, so you really don't have much movement there, if you try bend your knees too much on a flat slope you'll just end up pushing your body back and get into backseat. Lean forward from your waist to keep your spine parallel with your shin, bend knees enough to keep your center of mass over front of your foot but not too much. As the slope gets steeper you will naturally bend your knees more, since your shin angled more forward due to slope.
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Well, I think you are misinterpreting it. what it means is you should start a turn by moving skis with your legs, not by throwing your upper body towards the direction of turn in order to spin your body around, but your upper body should not be kept static. Use your hip and waist joints to keep your upper body upright while legs leaning into the turn, and facing straight downhill while your legs and feet move towards the turn.

Your lower leg is encased in your boots, so you really don't have much movement there, if you try bend your knees too much on a flat slope you'll just end up pushing your body back and get into backseat. Lean forward from your waist to keep your spine parallel with your shin, bend knees enough to keep your center of mass over front of your foot but not too much. As the slope gets steeper you will naturally bend your knees more, since your shin angled more forward due to slope.

 

Thats some really great tips jzmtl, il use that and try to work on that tomorrow when I go skiing.

post #9 of 10
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Went skiing today, your tip really helped me jzmtl, I was leaning my upper body forward and I feelt much better on the skies with much more control, it feels great. Sometimes my body still kinda moves back unwillingly tho, but I notice it and correct it back. Of course I still can't know if my body position is the best, but certainly it feels much better than before.

I also tried to go up and down with my body between turns as I saw that on a video on youtube, and I have to say it really helps alot, it makes the turning so much more easy and in control..

Il keep on working on this in the next days, and in 2 weeks I already have an instructor aranged so I can't wait, im pretty confident that il improve quite alot in the next weeks.
 

post #10 of 10
You are welcome, we've all been there, and I'm new enough at this I still remember what it's like to bumble around the mountain when I first started.
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