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K2 Axis [no X]

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Yes, the plain old K2 Axis - it doesn't have an X to its name. 111-70-101. When I first bought it, they called these skis "Mod" - Mod X, Mod X Pro, and then the lowly Mod 7/8 [odd name]. So the color is changed, but it's pretty much the same - the Mod 7/8 now call the plain old Axis. The magazine reviews in Ski and Skiing are quite disparate - Skiing has it right, though. In the "thumbs down" part of the review, the only thing they chose to say was wrong with it was, "Um, they don't have your size?" This trash about "not for lightweights" and "doesn't like short turns or boilerplate" is crap. First of all, how many skis "like" boilerplate???? And how many skiers??? Frankly, on ANY skis, I and thousands of others HATE boilerplate. However, it has been my own experience over two seasons that if you edge the damn things properly, the Axis is as good on the hard stuff as most others and better than a lot. "Hates short turns?!" PLEASE!!! Give me a break!! Look, I love this sport, but I am a mediocre skier on a GOOD day, and just plain lousy on the other days. And at sixty years old and 145 pounds after dinner, I guess I can be called "lightweight". Yet, without any heroic movements, I make short turns by the gazzilions on these skis. In fact, as I have been discussing in another forum, I need to back off on my turns a bit. Today I demoed nothing [yes, I know, that's odd for me]. I did most of my runs on the K2s and the next-to-last run on the Rossi T-Power shorties. Sure, the shorties were fun and amusing - but I was delighted to get back on those solid, dependable mid-fats - and I felt the degree of short turn quickness lost -if ANY - wasn't anything I missed. Why am I writing this now, when I already posted a review some time ago? Because, for one thing, I think that the review in Ski magazine was right in calling it a great crud buster, but WRONG in downgrading its short turn and hard snow performance and suitability for "lightweights". And secondly, just because K2 has positioned it as an "intermediate-to-advanced" ski doesn't mean it's not a really GREAT ski - most of those I know personally who are in the ski business as a livelihood have agreed: The K2 Axis is probably one of the most under rated skis of all time. Although I have found a new love [Rossi Bandit XX, as many of you Bears know by now], this old girl, the K2 Axis [Mod 7/8] will stay in my house for long, long time. And she deserves public recognition. At least Skiing approached that, wilst Ski [sorry, guys] has not.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 31, 2002 07:17 PM: Message edited 2 times, by oboe ]</font>
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Oboe I think SKi mag skied too long a size. All the Mods are best skied relatively short for us less than Superhuman types IMO.
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trey: You got it! They apparently only get one or two sizes to try. I first owned the Mod 7/8 [Axis-no-X] in 174 and loved it. Now I have it in 167, and I love that, too! But I think my reaction would have been different had I gone longer. The Bandit XX in 177 was horrid for me, while the Bandit XX in 170 is primo! So ya, the ski tests need to have the testers' size and the skis' size be appropriate for each other, or the test is dud.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oboe:
WRONG in downgrading its short turn and hard snow performance and suitability for "lightweights". .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have just finished one year on my Mod 7/8's and I reiterate, it is a great ski. I can carve on boilerplate with these things. I have been in just about any kind of snow. I'm 145, 5'9". I raved about these last year, and the performance has held up. They do great on hardpack. Insofar as "short turns" are concerned, I like to work a ski and wedel sometimes. I just haven't seen a problem with the 7/8's. However, I tried the ModX Pro's at Alta last month, and I do believe that they are quicker. I did like these skis. If that's what Skiing is comparing them to, then I could agree, but it's a matter of degree. The 7/8's perform and are a great all-mountain, all-condition ski.
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I think everything depends on your ability and preference. I rented the Axis X at Fernie and found them perfectly suited for powder and crud. However, once the powder was skied out and I spent more time on groomed runs, I found them too damp (for my preference) and lacking in edge grip (compared to a slalom ski). As you can see, it is all relative. Short turns on the Axis were easy enough (but definitely harder compared to a slalom ski). Overall I prefered the Head SuperCross Ti - a more demanding, precise ski, in my opinion.

My review of a ski will always be relative to very short slalom skis, because that is what I ski most of the time and that is what I like. But after skiing on the Head SuperCross Ti for a few days and coming back to Toronto, my short skis seemed too short, less stable, light in the tips and demanding more attention. It took me several runs (on a "powder-going-to-crud" day) to get used to them.

Today's skis are so good that I can probably enjoy most of them (given the right length, of course).
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TomB: I read your report with great empathy - referring to the developed taste for midfats. Today was a FIRM SNOW day at Smugglers' Notch. Sure, you COULD go off piste, but it felt bad, and so most of the fun was to be had on the very well prepared groomers. Nevertheless, I continued to mix ungroomed with groomed in all my runs. After a run on the K2 Mod 7/8's, I tried my Rossi T-Powers in 160 cm. This was the day for those skis - before the weather got even colder [and it was cold all day], these shorty slaloms really had edge hold. Then I re-trialed the Dynastar Intuitiv 71 in 167 cm [still a great ski], the Rossi Bandit X in 177 cm [just the right length for me in that ski, and it's a terrific all around ski], and the Rossi Bandit XX in 170 cm [this was a demo but I bought this model on Ebay in that length and expect to have it next week]. As the day got colder, the snow got less edgeable, but that's not the main point: After my last run on the Bandit XX, I finished the day just before the lifts closed with a run on the Rossi T-Powers. Amazing! After the stability and solidness of the Bandit XX, the T-Powers felt like . . . like NOT ENOUGH SKI! This type of condition is probably one that favors the shorty slaloms and not the midfats - but I've grown accustomed to having all that platform under me. And in any other conditions, the midfats have it all. This is always my final conclusion after every day of trialing skis, and it's reassuring, TomB, to read that I'm not the only one having that experience.
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First, congratulations on your new skis. I am sure you will enjoy them greatly, if not this year, certainly next year. You have a great quiver, no doubt!

Second, I envy you soo much that you are still skiing. Milk it for all it is worth for all of us.

Third, indeed it is impossible to miss the difference between a shorty slalom and the "big" platform of a mid-fat. But I try to enjoy the change nevertheless. Switching skis increases your sensitivity to the various characteristics of a ski. In the long run we are better skiers when we can go from short to long to fat to skinny and adapt instantly.

Anyway, enjoy the last few days of winter!
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