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post #91 of 171

I'm curious as to what's the highest chairlift off the ground that doesn't have a safety bar. The old Millicent chair at Brighton would have been a contender, but it's since been replaced.

 

There's a chair at Big Bear in SoCal that's next to a high speed quad and is usually only ran on weekends that's got to be 40-60 feet off the ground. Anyone know the name? I believe it did have a safety bar but it was still way up there.

post #92 of 171

The sketchiest lift I ever rode was at Aspen Highlands in the early 80s.  It was strung across a valley or gap somehow sort of. Must have been 80 feet or so at the highest drop.   I don't recall it having a safety bar either. 

post #93 of 171
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This started with fear of heights and age.

I've always been afraid of heights, then at 52 I started rock climbing. It took a couple of years, but now I'm relatively unafraid of being 700 ft above the ground.

So I think you can get used to heights.

And a few times I got a bit scared on square creek, and my solution is to keep looking down until I get used to the heights again.

 

I conquered mine climbing a couple water towers in my late teens.. it's back now though. Not deftly afraid of heights, but more so than in my youth.  I'll ride any lift bar up but prefer it down.

post #94 of 171
Up until I was sixteen, I couldn't handle being a passenger in my folks' car riding over high mountain passes. I always got freaked out. The first time I had to drive over Berthoud to get to Winter Park was a piece of cake. Heck, the first time I drove Independence Pass was trivial. Riding chairlifts has never been a problem either, safety bar or not.

That being said, riding in glass elevators creeps me out; I have to look toward the door the whole time, and I've never been comfortable flying in an airplane. Hot air balloons are not on my bucket list.
post #95 of 171

skiNEwhere, Chair 2?  Or chair 8 mebbe? Ned                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

post #96 of 171

The old chair 6 at Crystal Mt... hated riding it. Scared the crap out of me every ride. Always thought it was a bad accident waiting to happen. The new one is much better... safety bar, heavier chairs, etc... 

post #97 of 171

The only ones that bother me a really high lifts that run without safety bars.

Often these are the old fixed grip two seaters...

post #98 of 171
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The old chair 6 at Crystal Mt... hated riding it. Scared the crap out of me every ride. Always thought it was a bad accident waiting to happen. The new one is much better... safety bar, heavier chairs, etc... 

Ya know a couple of years back with a strong Easterly and one guy on a chair, the cable jumped the wheels,  I think on the tower just past that cliff rock.  

 

New chair is much better!

 

Only certain lifts get me!

 

Peak Chair at Whistler, and the Peak to Peak are nerve wracking as is the top of Chair 23 at Mammoth! 

 

The old single chair at Ski acres was a trip, for sure!. No bar ....actually barely a seat and a back!


Edited by Atomicman - 6/16/15 at 4:15pm
post #99 of 171

Supreme chair at Alta without safety bars was a trip, the few times we've been to Alta (3x); climbs that ridge-line for a long time, with trees below lift riders right and falling away feature below lift riders left. Read somewhere that all Alta chairs now have safety bars, so much for the theory that a lot of locals fed me then "no safety bars is safer than having safety bars" just after a kid fell off 40 ft into a dip right after the start of the chair to Supreme, I forget the name. It was sadly funny then. Kid recovered after a long hospital stay, was on the lift with his mom.

 

The Leissieres express in Val D'Isere even with bars was unnerving when it goes over and in our case, introduction was into nothingness; I can only imagine what it was like when there were no bars which I understand was not that long ago; we had avalanche bags on, could not flip them over or did not, but pushed that rear onto lip, not a fun feeling that morning...

 

It's in our trip chronicle video : intro to the  Leissieres chair : 1'32"-1'36" , and it's shown later in bright sunshine in the latter 1/3rd of the video.

 

And when I was a beginner skier, two years or so into it, this scared me the most, watching one's kid who is all off  7 years old solo on a rickety 40 year old double with bent safety bars - and he insists on sitting on the lip! L'Espace Killy had this amazing stopper built into the lift where all under 1.25m had to sit on, so they could not slip under! Cool device, made parents feel so much more secure and kids just safer, no falling out under the bar, and those lifts are often at least 40 ft to 80 ft in the air if not more in some cases, I thought more than 100ft but I did not measure them naturally.

Kid giving Dad a heart attack just watching: (great lifties though)

 

post #100 of 171

What about the Leissieres chair at Val D'isere the one that takes you over to the Col de Liseran.

 

The first time over is the worst.

 

 

As an engineer the squeaking and loud rumbling from the cable and wheels tells me there is a lot of tension and load at the top.

post #101 of 171

Likewise I've noticed more of a desire to hang on the back of the chair when a safety bar is not present. Ity looks just like a casual "I'll just rest my arm along he back" but I'm never away from a firm grip. I've ridden lifts long enough to have had one to many wind gust, emergency stop, and whatever else can happen on a lift while you are ridding them. Last year especially as I taught lots of kids and even with a bar down the way they jump around is enough to make me more careful.

 

I also simply call out "bar down" and look at everyone to make sure they are ready. I always have it down if I have students with me, and most of the time will do so if just free sking, otherwise the safety grip on the back. For me it is a wonderful footrest also, I say it gets me at least two more runs a day by saving wear and tear of my legs just dangling there.

 

Last note on safety bars; why do people lift them up when you are still 500 feet away form the unloading station? as often as not they want to lift the bar up over the highest area on the wole ride and panic if you say let's leave it down a bit longer. I work my classes with everyone on the chair being aware and ready to lift the bar up with plenty of time but at a far safer location. If everyone is ready it takes all of 2 seconds to lift up the bar makes more sense to use it as much as possible. ( Skyliner at Mt. Bachelor has given me some really tight spinchter moments right at the top when you get hit by gusts out of the right side, until I am next to the big blue windbreak the bar stays down if it is a (normal) windy day.)

post #102 of 171
I feel the same way and actually one of the problems was my backpack pushing me forward in your chair and made me uncomfortable sometimes. I actually bought a low-profile backpack last year and I'm much happier
post #103 of 171

The old chair 1 at Mt. Baker was always a challenge.  It was a center pole double with no bar.  You would get on at the mid station and the chair would be immediately launched out over a significant drop.  The chair would always swing all over the place, and to make things interesting I'm pretty sure the ski area installed special Teflon seats because your butt slid all over the chair no matter what the weather.  I always had a difficult time getting the other half to ride that one because it scared her too much.  I didn't like it much either.

 

The new one (no safety bar still) is a quad and does not swing.  It also has seat covers with some friction to help things along, but it's not an adventure anymore.

post #104 of 171
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skiNEwhere, Chair 2?  Or chair 8 mebbe? Ned                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

 

I barely remember that second lift, I don't think I rode it very much. I was definitely referring to the first one.

post #105 of 171

There is a possibility you may be thinking of chair #1, but I have not ridden it in many years. I only rode chair 2 this year because of lifted blackout days from the Big Bear/Mammy merger. It's only open on busy weekends, prolly been 20 years since the last time I was on it. Someone mentioned #23 @Mammy... Ned                                                                                                                       

post #106 of 171

And #23 has no bar. Ned                                                                                                                                                               

post #107 of 171
How did we survive all those years without comfort (they aren't 'safety' according to most ski area managers/lawyers) bars?
post #108 of 171
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How did we survive all those years without comfort (they aren't 'safety' according to most ski area managers/lawyers) bars?

I was younger back in the day before footrests. ;-)
post #109 of 171
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The old chair 1 at Mt. Baker was always a challenge.  It was a center pole double with no bar.  You would get on at the mid station and the chair would be immediately launched out over a significant drop.  The chair would always swing all over the place, and to make things interesting I'm pretty sure the ski area installed special Teflon seats because your butt slid all over the chair no matter what the weather.  I always had a difficult time getting the other half to ride that one because it scared her too much.  I didn't like it much either.

 

The new one (no safety bar still) is a quad and does not swing.  It also has seat covers with some friction to help things along, but it's not an adventure anymore.


I also liked the cargo net over the drop after mid load. It was funny if someone you knew ended up in it. Made you focus so you didn't get your turn.

That old off ramp drop in early season could be exciting too. You never knew until you crested the ramp how many bodies you'd need to dodge.    .

post #110 of 171
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It was funny if someone you knew ended up in it.

 

I saw a Bear fall in it once.  No names.

post #111 of 171

I only got scared once, years ago at Aspen Highlands.

post #112 of 171
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I saw a Bear fall in it once.  No names.

 

No names? Then how are we supposed to point and laugh and make fun of them? :hopmad: :D

post #113 of 171
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I saw a Bear fall in it once.  No names.

 

No names? Then how are we supposed to point and laugh and make fun of them? :hopmad: :D


Rest assured that this detail was generously taken care of.

post #114 of 171

At least there is a bar!

 

post #115 of 171
I experienced this today for the first time I'm 26 been boarding since I was 9 live kinda far away so only go like 5 or 6 times a year. 2day first time going this year went to Squaw valley an went on reddog for first time an i was by myself,, usually I'm not,, an about half way up seemed really high then it mellowed a little, then it seem to go even higher like 200 feet high like I'm dead if I fall high an i got nervous an my heart even speed up, kept telling myself chill just look up the lift but of course I kept looking down lol,, I had safety bar down an was sitting in middle, I made a comment bout how high it was to lift dude at top an he said u should ride it down, then said it's second highest lift in world don't know if that's true
post #116 of 171


Once , Loges Peak lift early 80's Aspen Highlands. The double chair at the time had a funky safety bar with like some kind of counter weight behind the foot rest. Anyway the guy loading in front pulled the safety bar down and somehow the back end of the safety bar knocked his skis off. I had never been on this lift before but seeing his skis come off my wife and I did not pull the bar down.

 

About 3/4 of the way up I wish we had. Looks like death if you would fall off into the steep canyon ledge .  I didn't like it!

post #117 of 171

I'm not one to be afraid of heights but there are a few lifts out there that can get me, particularly if its windy.

 

Alta - sitting in the middle of the Sugarloaf HSQ as they didn't have safety bars,  Supreme as well

Crested Butte - top of part of the Paradise Express

Vail - Golden Peak HSQ / Chair 6 where it decends the ridge after the mid-station

Breck - the upper section of the Peak 8 transfer 

post #118 of 171

I used to get bugged out at the end of chair 6 at Bogus Basin as a kid.  Looking down at the tops of big trees way below me.

 

Most of the time I'm OK, unless the chair stops.  Then it's an issue.  If the bar isn't down yet, it will be.

 

Going downhill is pretty freaky.  Rode the main lift at Snow King in Jackson, WY down one summer and sucked about a yard of seat cushion up my rear.  Mainly because I was watching my two kids in the chair in front of me.

 

Not too much to add to the safety bar discussion - looks like it got hashed out last year to no real conclusion.  I am one of the people you will definitely konk on the head if you bring it down unannounced, but I've learned to live with it.  One great benefit of the safety bar is the plastic trail map a lot of resorts are bolting to it.  You don't have to take off your gloves to figure out your next run.  I like footrests too.

 

@ltr450r - welcome to Epicski!  Great first post.  We like resurrecting old threads.

 

post #119 of 171

An interesting article on our ski lift infrastructure by Outside.

 

Is Your Local Chairlift a Death Trap?
Our nation's lifts are at the breaking point. We spent months researching past accidents and aging infrastructure—and found that it's time to act in order to avoid catastrophic failure....

 

https://www.outsideonline.com/2069911/your-local-chairlift-death-trap

post #120 of 171
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As you age your inner ear sensitivity decreases, which may affect your sensitivity to balance and have a negative effect.  You may get more motion sick more easily or no longer enjoy roller coasters, as what is going on in your inner ear,  can't keep up with your visual input.


Notice, conversely little kids can be motion sick as their inner ear is hypersensitive and giving them too much feedback.

I know this is an old post, but just stumbled on it.  So that's what has happened to me with the roller coasters.  Used to love them.  Now, I can only do a couple rides and I don't feel too good.

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