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Cheaters GS skis anyone?

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Im racing in national level Masters GS events and most of the participants are skiing eather on old womens GS R24 skis or old mens R27m skis. Now Im wondering if anybody ever tried the off the shelf cheaters GS skis with turn radius ranging in the R19m region? I have a pair of Völkls 180cm long R18,6 skis and ripping at club level but have not had the time to try them on bigger events. I took the original binding/plate pc of junk and replaced it with a proper PistonPlate/Marker20 combo. And the ski feels really responsive and is easy to bend into tight turns. Anybody have any experiance or know of some master sticking to such skis?

post #2 of 10

Try 'em and maybe you'll like 'em. It's what I used to ski, but I'm now using a woman's WC ski (Atomic 183, 24.3), which is more stable, holds better, and is just as quick and easy to bend into the turn...happy to say I just saw next year's Atomic catalog, and this ski will still be available...

post #3 of 10

I've been using women's GS for years, but this year I got the Nordica GSR Evo EDT. It's a 186cm ski with a 20.5m turn radius. It's been working out pretty well for me. Blizzard has something similar - in fact, apart from the plate/binding it may very well be the same ski.

post #4 of 10
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Thanks for the input guys. The Nordicas and the Blizzards may well be the same ski. Ive seen the Blizzards for sale in a local shop but its still something like 700USD so I would not consider that a good deal. I think that all brands will be producing good quality R18-24m type of GS skis in the future since regular mens and womens GS skis are not an option for other than FIS reguled racers.

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Originally Posted by SkiRacer55 View Post

Try 'em and maybe you'll like 'em. It's what I used to ski, but I'm now using a woman's WC ski (Atomic 183, 24.3), which is more stable, holds better, and is just as quick and easy to bend into the turn...happy to say I just saw next year's Atomic catalog, and this ski will still be available...

 

I'm with SR55 on this.  I really think the cheater is no longer really applicable for anything serious.  Especially since you are used to a full bore 27m race ski I think you will find them disappointing.

 

There is also a new breed of cheater out tehre now, the "Masters cheater".  Fischer and Rossi both do one.  The Nordica described by EPIC may be along similar lines

post #6 of 10

I'd sure like to try an Atomic Redster 183 in our courses. I've got a pair of couple year old D2 183/24 and in the comparisons I've done, I'm faster on my 18.4 Redster cheaters. Our beer league courses feature a flat start and the sets have been tight this year and our Masters courses are probably shorter than the typical set. Couldn't be that me being an old guy with mediocre technique has anything to do with it.........smile.gif

post #7 of 10

Ross has an Master WC GS ski that looks like a nice one for Master comp, havn't tried it but it looks good.

Anyone who has tested that?

post #8 of 10
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Interesting.... since the new FIS racing R33-35m GS skis are no longer useful for Masters on club and national level I suspect that we will be seeing more and more good quality GS skis in the range of 180-185/R18-23m in the future. Looking at the Stöckli homepage I see they have a ski made for ski cross they call the Laser SX FIS that measures 185/R23. That would be a great Masters GS ski. Basicly a 2012 womens GS ski slightly longer.

post #9 of 10

without dropping to the i.Speed masters ski, you can still get a Head iGSRD in a 175-23m or 178,183-25.4m

post #10 of 10

Run Atomic GS11's 181 oe 183. If you can't make those work...well..I do and I'm over 60...Good hardware. fast too. 
 

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