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Extremely Canadian Steeps Clinic review.

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Last week I traveled with my ski club to Whistler and took the Extremely Canadian Steeps Clinic.  http://www.extremelycanadian.com/  I have to say that it was the most challenging and thrilling 2 days in my 41 years of skiing.  I truly believe I came away a better skier, especially on the steeps where we spent most of our time.

 

Day One we started out on Whistler Mountain.  The clinic is like most ski schools with a warm up run and then a ski off on a black diamond bump run where you are broken into small groups with a max of 4 per class + coach. This is also where  they will shake out the skiers they feel are not ready to tackle the true steeps.  I guess I did ok as I was put into the top group with just one other skier.  Our Coach was Derek Foose.  Some folks have said that I am one of the best skiers they have skied with, but this guy is the BEST SKIER I have ever had the pleasure to ski with.  He starred in a Warren Miller movie a couple years back "Children of Winter".  The segment about sailing to Iceland and then skiing off the coast.  Anyway for the next two days he was our best friend and coach.

 

He did do some drills with us early on to make sure we could do hop turns and had good control of our edges.  Then he led us to one double black run to another.  Some were real hidden gems with untracked, days after the last snowfall.  After lunch they took some video of us skiing to be viewed the next day and then generally wore us out.  In a good way as there were no "hero" runs to get your mojo back, you had to be on.  When we finished at 3:30 I was exhausted.

 

The next day we started up Blackcomb Mountain with a stop at their on mountain hut to view the videos from day one.  It is amazing how a little video can reveal so many flaws.  The rest of the day we worked on those flaws.  My main one was keeping my hips more forward and my partner needed some work on pole plants.  Easy to do on mellower terrain but when the hill gets to 45% and beyond, it is easier said than done when you are in survival mode.  As the day progressed he ramped it up to include a couple of unofficial triple black runs like Hawaii 5 0 and Bushrat. 

 

Day 2 ended with a free apres ski with drinks and snacks plus a souvenir t-shirt.  IMHO the $400 cost for 2 days was well worth it  I was guided safely to parts of Whistler / Blackcomb that I never would have found myself, or had the guts to ski by myself.  I know that I came away a better skier with more confidence on the super steeps.  I have also discovered that even though I am a pretty good skier, especially for my age at 58, Derek Foose is as far beyond what I can do just as I am beyond the skill levels of a beginner.  I was truly in awe watching him ski.

 

So if you are headed to Whistler and have an adventurous spirit, I would strongly suggest you take this clinic.  You won't regret it.

 

Rick G


Edited by rickg - 2/14/13 at 8:40pm
post #2 of 17

I've done the Whistler clinics in 2005 and 2008, plus the Extremely Canadian guided tours to Las Lenas in 2005 and La Grave in 2008. Derek Foose was the photographer at Las Lenas.  Highly recommended.

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That sounds awesome Rick and a heck of a way to do a mountain.  Now you are ready for Blue Knobspit.gif

post #4 of 17

+1 for sounding awesome.  Any US resorts do a clinic like this?

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Jackson Hole and Big Sky come to mind for clinics involving steeps, but there are others as well in the Rockies.

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+1 for sounding awesome.  Any US resorts do a clinic like this?

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The next day we started up Blackcomb Mountain with a stop at their on mountain hut to view the videos from day one.  It is amazing how a little video can reveal so many flaws.

 

I've found that in a video you never look as bad as you thought you might (if you had a bad run) but you never look as good as you hoped you would (if you had a great run.)
 

post #7 of 17

Thanks so much for the review. I've been wanting to do this but have been apprehensive to sign on - combination of being a little fearful about my ability and my conditioning, but seems like they cater to different skill levels. I'm sold!

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Jackson Hole and Big Sky come to mind for clinics involving steeps, but there are others as well in the Rockies.

 

I was at Big Sky last winter and looked into their guided program which takes you down the Big Couloir,  The cost was $400 for 4 hours for 2 people.  Then an extra charge for additional folks up to 4.  Extremely Canadian cost $400 for 2 full days, 8:30 to 3:30 with a max 4 to a class.  IMHO opinion that is a much better value.

 

Rick G

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I've found that in a video you never look as bad as you thought you might (if you had a bad run) but you never look as good as you hoped you would (if you had a great run.)
 

 

You know when I saw my video I thought I had acquited myself fairly well.  Then they showed Derek's run which I saw live.  Where we entered the chute between the rock outcroppings he launched off one of them maybe 20 feet in the air, nailed the landing and did about 4 big ass turns to get down the 1000 vert to where we were watching in awe!

 

I felt like such a hack after that!

 

They sent me a copy and if I knew how to post a vid I would post it.

 

Rick

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You know when I saw my video I thought I had acquited myself fairly well.  Then they showed Derek's run which I saw live.  Where we entered the chute between the rock outcroppings he launched off one of them maybe 20 feet in the air, nailed the landing and did about 4 big ass turns to get down the 1000 vert to where we were watching in awe!

 

I felt like such a hack after that!

 

They sent me a copy and if I knew how to post a vid I would post it.

 

Rick

Rickg, Extremely Canadian sounds like a great value; I am going to look into it for next season.  Posting a video is easy but you first have to upload it to youtube or vimeo.

post #11 of 17

rick, how'd you like your E98's in the bigger terrain? smile.gif

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You know when I saw my video I thought I had acquited myself fairly well.  Then they showed Derek's run which I saw live.  Where we entered the chute between the rock outcroppings he launched off one of them maybe 20 feet in the air, nailed the landing and did about 4 big ass turns to get down the 1000 vert to where we were watching in awe!

 

I felt like such a hack after that!

 

They sent me a copy and if I knew how to post a vid I would post it.

 

Rick

 Please bring it to Blue Knob.

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 Please bring it to Blue Knob.

 

I already have it on a jump drive.  Hopefully someone will have a laptop.  My netbook won't play the vids only the pics.

 

Rick G

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rick, how'd you like your E98's in the bigger terrain? smile.gif

 

I found them to be a great all mountain tool.  I think Whistler is a great place to own a ski like the E98 due to the generally heavier snow which packs down firm,  The skis did well in the broken snow and the untracked when we could find it.

 

However, on my 2nd day I noticed a slight delamination in the tip of one ski.  At some point it must have gotten over flexed in the bumps we were skiing and caused a deformation across the tip right where one of the top metal layers tapers off.  My boss at the shop I work at took a pic and sent it to Rossi to see what they say.  Hopefully a new pair.  There are only about 20 days on them and not quite a year old,  They did ski just fine the rest of the week and you can feel no weakness in the flex.  Maybe only cosmetic, but still it looks bad.

 

On the brighter side, I did see many other E98's on the hill.  I was told they are a popular rental.  And the director of the Extremely Canadian, Peter Smart was using the same equipment as I.  E98's and Lange RX130's.  Made me feel special.

 

Rick G

post #15 of 17

I've skied a bunch of other stuff, but am always happy to get back on the E98's. Tough to find a more versatile big mountain daily driver.

post #16 of 17

I second everything that was said about Extremely Canadian. The price is very reasonable for the experience of skiing in places that I, without a guide/instructor would not be willing to go to. I think the reason most of the runs still had good snow was that the entry into them, at least for me, was very daunting. Without our guide, me and my buds would just have looked down that steep, narrow, rock-hewn entry and moved on. Not only did the guide give useful critique of our skiing, he also showed us tactics on how to deal with those entries. My guide's name is Nick Thomas, and he is an excellent skier, teacher, and person. In fact my group enjoyed it so much, we signed up for an extra day. I was there last week as well.

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I second everything that was said about Extremely Canadian. The price is very reasonable for the experience of skiing in places that I, without a guide/instructor would not be willing to go to. I think the reason most of the runs still had good snow was that the entry into them, at least for me, was very daunting. Without our guide, me and my buds would just have looked down that steep, narrow, rock-hewn entry and moved on. Not only did the guide give useful critique of our skiing, he also showed us tactics on how to deal with those entries. My guide's name is Nick Thomas, and he is an excellent skier, teacher, and person. In fact my group enjoyed it so much, we signed up for an extra day. I was there last week as well.

 

Awesome!  I don't recall meeting Nick, but they do have an awesome roster of coaches.  I was told that one of the girls was a 2 time Wold Freestyle Champion in her prime.  I believe her first name was Jen but couldn't find her name on their on line roster.  Does anyone know who she might be?

 

Rick G

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