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Thread Starter 

It's all relative....

 

 

I was considered an "expert" N.E. skier in 1976 (my last regular skiing) although I never really enjoyed skiing Goat. National in good conditions, yes. 

 

I have skied perhaps 10 days total since then, and only expect to ski 10-15 days per year now, all in the NE, mostly small hills in the Catskills. 

 

 

I am   55,   5' 10.5" and 180.

I was  18    5' 10.75" and 155      I used to ski 194 VR-17's and 203 Dynastars

 

My expectation i will now be skiing mostly intermediate and advanced packed (icy?) trails.

 

I rented a pair of beat up rental shop 168 cm turn-o-matics.I realize the inherent limitation of that experience, so while I was not terribly convinced as to the style being "better",  I am quite willing to take a few lessons to understand how to ski them properly.

 

I would like to find a pair of used skis & boots that would give me a good ride. Please be gentle in any explanation, I just woke up...the last things I remember were hexels and "the ski".

 (yeah, the bindings and poles too.)

 

Pros/Cons:

 198 cm Salomon Equipe 8100 BE25 skis equip with Salomon Composite DRB Bindings with Driver Suspension (WTF?)

 168 cm Volkl Supersport 6 Star Skis W/ Marker Comp 1400 binding

 

 

Thanks,

Eric

post #2 of 6

Welcome to EpicSki.  Whatever skis you consider make sure the bindings are still indemnified because if they aren't you won't find a shop that will be willing to work on them.  I have a pair of Volkl Supersport Allstars and they work great on groomers.  I think they're are pretty similar to the 6 Star.  They're stiff but you should be able to handle them, I weigh 150 and handle mine.  I know nothing about the Salomons.  Nobody here will recommend you buy used boots.  Used boots are for sale for a reason, mostly because the liners are completely packed out and provide neither support nor warmth and replacing a liner isn't terribly cheap.  Go to the "Ask the Boot Guys" forum and read the wikis about fitting and terminology so you have a good idea how boots should fit.  Then wait for end of season sales and see what you can find.  Go to a ski specialty shop because they are most likely to have someone who knows how boots should fit. Don't go to a big box store because they won't have anyone who knows anything about how ski boots should fit.

 

I am curious about why you decided to take up skiing again since you said you never really enjoyed it.  If I had quit doing something because I didn't like it I sure wouldn't be taking it up again.

post #3 of 6

Welcome to Epic.

 

Well, your not alone.  I just switch last year from 205 Blizzard RS skis to 176 Dynastar FIS GS skis and also a set of Nordica Doberman SL Skis.  I primarily ski Ontario Hard Pack and love both skis on all hill types (large and small)

 

If you are going to the ski the typical Eastern hard pack then I'm going to usggest anything in the bear can racer type skis.  Typically a cut between both the GS and the SL but branded a GS ski with a "Ti" behind them for most brands  because of your experience and level.

 

Expect about 16hrs to adjust but you will have a blast (alternatively get a quick tranistion lesson could go quicker).  The short of the differnece is in technique I'll sum up up as every thing you where taught not to do on straight skis you do now (primarily timing and initiation).

 

 Yes there is a difference and it will make you feel like you are 17 again and that much better of a skier! yahoo.gif

 

Now size, I'm 48 6' 170lbs, my new skis are GS 176 and SL 165.  The gs could easily go up to about 186 (but for what I ski I don't miss the extra length).

 

Boots, I'll leave to the more experience ones out there.

 

 

Have fun and get out.

 

G

post #4 of 6

Eric,

 

Of the two choices and your description of yourself I would recommend the Volkls.

 

Realistically if you want something that feels more like you learned on, look for a gs race carver type with a 17 - 20 m radius.

 

Demo a lot

 

I have a similar background but do ski a lot now, and my favorite all around ski for a long time has been Volkl superspeeds 175 cm 17.5 m radius.

 

The easy turners just don't have the pop you would be looking for.

 

Regards,

Steve

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Thread Starter 

Thank you guys!!! (Laughing at the miscue)...Sorry Mtcy, that was very parochial of me. Did you wonder about the word "Goat?"  I never really liked to ski "Goat." Goat is a particular trail at Stowe Mtn. in Vermont.  Someone mentioned  Goat on the thread that brought me to this board. I liked skiing...  I skied practically every day there was snow available from my first day on skis (2 weeks before Thanksgiving in 1969) until the end of 1976 season.  We even used to shovel it to keep it ski-able in the fall and spring. Only question was alpine or x-c...

 

My 5 year old daughter has decided that she likes skiing...  

I am trying to find skis that are more satisfying (and cheaper)  than the local mountain rentals at 30 bucks per day, while we figure out how much we like it as a family affair.

 

So I will try to get the Volkls (Craiglist). and see what happens. Am going to the boot wiki now!

 

Thx also for the heads up about bindings. Never even thought about it.

 

 

Regards, 

Eric

post #6 of 6

Lots of fun to get back on the slopes with your kid.  My daughter was 4 when I first put her in ski school.  Lucky for me, she loved it.  My husband is a non-skier, but tolerates our ski trips pretty well.  The first pair of cheap used shaped skis I bought for skiing with a beginning kid were deliberately on the short side.  Found them on eBay.  Made it easier to ski backwards.  Also less to carry when I also had to carry her skis and boots too.

 

You might find some useful info in the Beginner Zone and Family Skiing forums.  Most of the "beginner" threads are really for intermediates or those returning to the slopes after a long hiatus.

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Thank you guys!!! (Laughing at the miscue)...Sorry Mtcy, that was very parochial of me. Did you wonder about the word "Goat?"  I never really liked to ski "Goat." Goat is a particular trail at Stowe Mtn. in Vermont.  Someone mentioned  Goat on the thread that brought me to this board. I liked skiing...  I skied practically every day there was snow available from my first day on skis (2 weeks before Thanksgiving in 1969) until the end of 1976 season.  We even used to shovel it to keep it ski-able in the fall and spring. Only question was alpine or x-c...

 

My 5 year old daughter has decided that she likes skiing...  

I am trying to find skis that are more satisfying (and cheaper)  than the local mountain rentals at 30 bucks per day, while we figure out how much we like it as a family affair.

 

So I will try to get the Volkls (Craiglist). and see what happens. Am going to the boot wiki now!

 

Thx also for the heads up about bindings. Never even thought about it.

 

 

Regards, 

Eric

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