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Powder skis with some carving ability - need an advice

post #1 of 9
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Good evening, 

 

Before this season cracked in, I got myself Atomic Blackeye Ti. It was a good choice and I really enjoyed it and still do. However, a week ago or so I went to the Kitzbuhel, Austria and... man, that place is legendary. I found myself skiing powder most of the time since weather allowed it but my Blackeye really prefer piste over powder as its that type of ski, of course.

Naurally I decided to get some powder skis but there is a catch. My local mountains don't get that much powder throughout the ski season or for whatever reason I can't hit all powder days out there. So, I thought to get some powder skis (100-115) with some carving ability to use it all the time. There is another problem too... ski availability in this God forgotten country (Bosnia) is awful.

Anyway, Nordica Helldorado (185cm, 113mm) is available and as I read at freeskier.com and similar sites it just might be the thing that I'm looking for. Also, there is Nordica El Paco (similar to Blackeye) and Nordica Radict (way to wide, 127mm). 

 

I'm advanced skier at 194cm (6'3) height and 70kg (155) weight. Helldorado @185 should be right choice, yes? Next one is 193cm but that one seems way to lengthy for skiing conditions I mentioned before.

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 9

Welcome to EpicSki, if someone hasn't already welcomed you.  How deep was the powder you skied and how deep is the powder that you expect to ski?  It may be that you don't need a "powder" ski that wide.  I spent several hours this past Sunday skiing in powder that ranged from 12" to 24"(30-60cm) using my Nordica Steadfasts which are only 90mm.  The Hell and Back series has very good edge grip and you might find the Hell and Back easier to since it's only 98mm instead of 113.  Of course, if it isn't available it doesn't matter.  Also I've heard that Elan skis are more widely available in Europe than in the US so you might want to consider the Elan 999(99mm), if it's available.  My son skis the 888 and says it has great edge grip and watching him carve with them leads me to believe he's right.  All the skis I've mentioned have tip rocker so they will perform pretty well in the powder.

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That was a really constructive answer, thank you. Powder I skied was around my knees tops (in Austria) but here will not be that deep which comes to conclusion that 113s are maybe wider then needed. So, up to 100mm would be more then enough I guess... Gonna check those you mentioned, thanks again!

post #4 of 9

If you've enjoyed your Blackeye in the conditions you usually experience, why not keep it and just demo when you're at a mountain in powder conditions? I also find the Blackeye is a fantastic ski for most all mountain terrain  in 5" or less. 

post #5 of 9

Lots of powder ski's out there with carving ability.  I easily ski my S7's on groomers, bumps, chop and powder...just not ice.

post #6 of 9

Again, a DPS 112 or the 99 carve exceptionally well in moderate and deep powder. However, I'm not sure you want a 110 wide ski for what you are describing. I think you might be happier with something in the 98-class up to 10_ (fill in the blank) ski.  There a ton of skis that would work for you in that band width.  Nordica Hell and Back was my top "all mountain" ski from SIA but its really a matter of personal preference for what flavor you like.  

post #7 of 9

As Finn stated there are literally tons of wide skis that can carve a turn (the size of that turn is another discussion).  Just definitely avoid anything with reverse sidecut and probably also full rocker (no camber underfoot).

 

This should probably be re-thought of as "Powder skis seeking a skier with carving ability".  ;)

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Naurally I decided to get some powder skis but there is a catch. My local mountains don't get that much powder throughout the ski season or for whatever reason I can't hit all powder days out there. So, I thought to get some powder skis (100-115) with some carving ability to use it all the time.

 

How much powder are you really likely to ski at your local mountains?  If you're more likely to be skiing on firm snow then on anything else, then the point of owning a powder ski has always been lost on me.

 

I think a lot of people buy skis based on the conditions they wish they were skiing, not on the conditions they wind up skiing.  All skis are a compromise in some conditions.

 

I live in New England, home of what is normally hard-pack conditions.  I take a trip or two out West every year.  If it dumps big time while I'm out West, I'll grab some powder skis from a local shop.

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Originally Posted by Metaphor_ View Post

If you've enjoyed your Blackeye in the conditions you usually experience, why not keep it and just demo when you're at a mountain in powder conditions? I also find the Blackeye is a fantastic ski for most all mountain terrain  in 5" or less. 

 

Well, this turned out to be plain truth. I was looking for some skis at 100 then 95 but when I came to 90 I kind of realize I already have it with Blackeye Ti (82 to be precise). And of course I was looking for a ski that I would get most of it on my local mountains. Point is, while already having such a great ski that fits my needs on my mountain, next option can be just as Metaphor suggested, get the demo for deep powder.

Heh, you got to understand me, I just came from Kitzbuhel where we had such a great powder that we didn't ski piste at all. So I guess under such impression I wanted to get a pair of powder skis which, to be honest, would be useless on my mountain (at least most of the time). Well, few suggestions here and there helps to get down safely :)

 

Thanks a lot ppl, really appreciate it!

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