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I would like some advice and help. I have recently purchased a set of K2 Aftershock 2012 - 181 cm (86mm width) skis and they don't come with bindings. I am looking to get a set of bindings, but struggling with knowing what I need. Tried looking on line and there is conflicting advice - For example, I like the Marker Griffon 13, however on the Marker site it says it is for the lighter skier.... which I don't think I am. Therefore I thought I would ask the experts instead....

My details and ski info - I am intermediate/advanced. I ski with a snowboarder, hence I spend around 40% of my time off-piste.

- Weight - 103kg
- Height - 6ft 1inch
- Age: 35
- Skier Type - 2/3 (Hard, high speed, carving turns, off-piste frequently...)
- Boot Sole Length - 350mm

So based on www.dinsettings.com - I think it is DIN 6.5

I've heard that the Griffon is squeaky, but light... I've also been recommended the Salomon STH Driver 2013...

I've also read that break width should not be more than 12 mm more than the ski width.. Is a 100 mm too wide for 86mm skis?

So to close... I'm a guy that has previously paid very little attention to bindings.... Just focused on skis. Overall I'm a little lost. Does it really make a difference???

Thanks in advance.
A.
post #2 of 8

I know plenty of big guys skiing with Marker Griffons.  Their bindings are holding up just fine.

 

I have put a lot of miles on my Griffons.  I have no issues.  Keep in mind I weigh about 80 kg (175 pounds).

 

As for the squeekiness, I have not heard about that.

 

If you are worried about durability, look at a Solly STH or a Marker Jester.  Both bindings use more metal.

 

As for brake width, Marker and Solly both sell their bindings with 90 mm brakes.

 

Dennis

post #3 of 8

1. You've got some really big feet.

 

2. I can't imagine that a 13 din binding wouldn't be fine for someone skiing at din 6.5. It seems like Marker is using "lighter skiers" to either a. Upsell to people who they want to make think they need 16 din bindings or b. say that lighter people can use these, unlike Jesters or Dukes.  Unless you are skiing a boatload of days a year, I doubt it would be worth paying the premium for the extra metal.

 

3. The brakes would probably be fine, but you could likely buy them with 90mm brakes or trade the 100mm brakes for something smaller.

 

4. If you want other options, Look PX12 and PX14 have held up well for me and can often be found at good prices.

post #4 of 8

Hard, high speed carving turns, 40% off piste. You might want to call yourself a level 3 skier though which would give you a DIN of 8. You must be one of the few guys on this forum who underestimate their ability. 

post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all your answers.  Much appreciated. It has been very helpful

 

Old Goat - Your comment made me laugh.... my ability has a dent after a face plant last year landed me in hospital with a broken cheek bone.

Marcus Brody - Yes... got big feet! :-)

 

I have a further question to ask you....  if you had a choice of Salomon STH Driver 2013 (100mm brake) vs Marker Griffon 2013 (90mm brake).

 

Both links are below and below are around the same price...

 

http://www.edgeandwax.co.uk/270479/products/marker_griffon_2013_ski_bindings_white_and_black_90mm_brake.aspx

http://www.edgeandwax.co.uk/260928/products/salomon_sth_driver_2013_ski_binding.aspx

 

Whilst I think the Salomon STH Driver is the better bindings... I kind of like the Marker Griffon 2013 has 90mm brake.  The skis that I have are 86m width... I am not sure if 90mm is too tight... but the 100mm is too wide.  Or should I not care about the brake size.  I'm unclear on my options here..

 

Thanks again.

post #6 of 8

The 90mm brake is not too tight--- I've got 115mm skis mounted with 110mm brakes (bent to fit).

 

I've also got 98mm skis mounted with 110mm brakes. I prefer the smaller-but-bent brakes. 

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Originally Posted by gusmac View Post

 

I have a further question to ask you....  if you had a choice of Salomon STH Driver 2013 (100mm brake) vs Marker Griffon 2013 (90mm brake).

 

Whilst I think the Salomon STH Driver is the better bindings... I kind of like the Marker Griffon 2013 has 90mm brake.  The skis that I have are 86m width... I am not sure if 90mm is too tight... but the 100mm is too wide.  Or should I not care about the brake size.  I'm unclear on my options here..

Both are quality bindings and will work fine.  I own skis with both and I'd be hard pressed to say one is "better" than the other.  No way a normal skier will perceive a material difference in performance between those two. I wouldn't over think this one - you'll never notice the difference.

 

The 90 brake will fit perfectly but the 100 would also be OK. 

 

If they are both the same price, which binding looks better with your skis?  If you are hung up on the color, Marker also did a Griffon with blue highlights that would look nice on those Aftershocks (the blue ones, right).  Sometimes, when all else is equal, fashion does equal performance.cool.gif

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Originally Posted by gusmac View Post

I would like some advice and help. I have recently purchased a set of K2 Aftershock 2012 - 181 cm (86mm width) skis and they don't come with bindings. I am looking to get a set of bindings, but struggling with knowing what I need. Tried looking on line and there is conflicting advice - For example, I like the Marker Griffon 13, however on the Marker site it says it is for the lighter skier.... which I don't think I am. Therefore I thought I would ask the experts instead....

My details and ski info - I am intermediate/advanced. I ski with a snowboarder, hence I spend around 40% of my time off-piste.

- Weight - 103kg
- Height - 6ft 1inch
- Age: 35
- Skier Type - 2/3 (Hard, high speed, carving turns, off-piste frequently...)
- Boot Sole Length - 350mm

So based on www.dinsettings.com - I think it is DIN 6.5

A.

Note that if you bump up from type 2 to type 3 your din goes up to 8.  If you are really hard charging at high speeds I'd go higher than 6.5.  I weigh 170 and go at 7.5, used to go higher when I skied more often.  When you do get them on try to step in to them and pop out to check how easy or hard it is..

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