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Help - foot cramps/boots slightly too large. Will liners or footbeds help?

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I bought brand new Langes at the end of last season - I went in ready to spend a lot of money, take a lot of time deciding, and have the boots for a really long time.  In short, I didn't want a do-over

 

the first few days I skied on them, I had some major foot cramping - which I attributed to breaking the boots in, as well as skiing on some seriously slushy late spring moguls (the only option for me to try the new boots on that season).  I took them back to the bootfitter to have the shell heated a bit, and hoped that next season it would be better.

 

This season was GREAT - I skied 14 days loving my new boots.  However, on day 15 I experienced agonizing foot cramps almost as soon as I hit the snow.  I tried resting it a few hours and then going back out, but I couldn't even get down a green without the cramp coming back.  It was in my right foot only, which is my dominant foot.  The cramping was intense in the ball of my foot and along the outside edge

 

I went straight to the Surefoot at the base of the mountain, and the guy said my boots were too big, and that custom footbeds would help but not solve the size problem.  So disappointing to hear that my brand new boots, which I had spent a lot of time fitting, were actually too big!  Taking them back to the shop is not really an option, since I bought them in Vermont and now live in Colorado.

 

I am hoping to fix my current boots, rather than start over again.  I believe my boots are only slightly too large, since Surefoot had me try on the size down and my toes were squashed up against the front.  I'm thinking I got cramps so late in the season because the liner hadn't been packed in.  Also, I have extremely short but relatively full/wide feet - my current boots are 22.5, which is almost as small as they get.  Perhaps I was put in a larger size because of the width of my feet.  I did try on every boot in the shop when I bought them!

 

Wondering what the next step is - I've been told by people that my problem is probably fixable.  I've been getting conflicting answers on whether a custom footbed or an Intuition liner would help.  I'd definitely prefer that to getting new boots, but I don't want to invest if it's not actually going to help.  Will footbeds provide the support I need to prevent cramping, even in slightly-too-large boots?  Will Intuition liners compensate for the extra space and keep my foot snugly in place?

 

Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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how big is the shell fit?   5-15 mm is the goal.

 

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

strange that you tried on "the size down"  most boots only go down to 22.  only 21's avail (I think) are the technica race 90, in 21, and a few dalbellos

 

do you need a shorter boot, or a narrower boot?  what part of your foot is moving around, and in what direction?

a footbed might help,  worth trying for the $100ish.

 

A HV intuition might help as well.  $200

 

what about a thicker sock on that foot that feels to big?

 

smaller boots might help too, but a true 21 is hard to find, but a few of us have them avail, and can help or you ship.  (I have the 21 technica)

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mntlion, thanks for your response - I'm not sure what you mean by the shell fit...the salesguy at Surefoot took out my liner and did the finger width test and said there was too much room I was wearing my thickest ski socks on the day the problem started, and I'm not sure wearing multiple socks would be warmer or more comfortable I tried on 2 pairs of 21 including the Technica, and they both seemed too small...maybe with a packed-in liner they would have fit, but since my foot is a little wide for being so small, I think that might be the reason I was put in a slightly larger boot.
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mntlion, thanks for your response - I'm not sure what you mean by the shell fit...t


1) What is the shell fit like for length? Remove the liner, put your foot in the shell only, have your toes lightly touching the front of the boot and see how much room is behind your heel and the boots shell. Use a pen as a spacer and measure this for thickness. You want 5-15mm (3/16 to 5/8 inch) of room. If you have more then 25mm (1") stop here

2) What is the shell fit like for width? Now center your foot front to back, (same amount of room behind the toe and heel) and is the width of your foot touching the sides of the boots shell? You want anything from lightly brushing to 2mm per side. If you have 3mm per side stop here.

 

 

 

small boots can me made bigger in almost every way.  so you can make boot wider as needed,  up to 5mm per side or more.

 

so get the smaller, tighter, boot with a 5-15mm shell fit, and then stretch the shell if needed for width.

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