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Forntside skis for a lighter person

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I am 6'1,155 lbs, a level 7 skier and I ski only in the west mostly at Breckenridge. I am looking for a more frontside oriented all mountin ski to go with my powder skis the Icelandic Shamans. I am looking for something somewhere in 80-90 mm range but I would consider going wider if the ski still was still very good on the front side. The problem I am running into is that many of the good skis in that catogory are for heavier people like the Volkl RTM 84 and the Blizzard Magnum 8.5. I have looked a lot at the Rossingol Exp 88 and I am planning to demo it soon. Does any one have any suggestions for front side all mountain ski for someone of my hight and weight?

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Originally Posted by rnerem View Post

I am 6'1,155 lbs, a level 7 skier and I ski only in the west mostly at Breckenridge. I am looking for a more frontside oriented all mountin ski to go with my powder skis the Icelandic Shamans. I am looking for something somewhere in 80-90 mm range but I would consider going wider if the ski still was still very good on the front side. The problem I am running into is that many of the good skis in that catogory are for heavier people like the Volkl RTM 84 and the Blizzard Magnum 8.5. I have looked a lot at the Rossingol Exp 88 and I am planning to demo it soon. Does any one have any suggestions for front side all mountain ski for someone of my hight and weight?

 

Lighter person here. smile.gif  Amateur, though, so bear that in mind.

 

You're on a reasonable track. You should demo the E88 as planned. If you KNOW the other skis are too stiff for you, fine. But if you just READ that, you might want to try them anyway to be sure. Go with a shorter length than your height might otherwise suggest. Mid-70s, give or take 5cm. There are tons of good skis that will meet your needs, and TONS of discussion about them here. Do some reading and searching on this forum. (Hint: use Google, not the Epic search feature, and just include "epicski" as a search term.)  I'm a big fan of the Dynastar Sultan 85 from a couple years ago, which you can find cheap on eBay or sometimes here in our own classifieds. You would want the 172, probably, but possibly the 178 if you are all about long turns in big spaces. The current model descendant of that ski is the Outland 87, well reviewed here - possibly a bit less front-side oriented, but plausibly a good fit for Breck. Unfortunately I have not skied that one (yet).

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My son is just about your size and really likes his Elan Apexes, now called 888.  He skis them in all conditions and everywhere on the mountain, except in the park.  He says they're very responsive and that they hold an edge well on hardpack.  I'm about 5'8", 150 pounds and love my Nordica Steadfasts.  They only have metal where the bindings mount so they're lightweight, but they have terrific edge grip.  Try them if you can.

post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 

Thank you a lot for your suggestions. I will try to  demo the steadfast. I am also wondering if it would make any sense for me a man to get a women's ski and mount the bindings further back. The main reason I would consider doing this is that I found that women's skis are significantly cheaper.

post #5 of 22
Another way to save is to get a ski that is new but one or two seasons old. Often the only change from year to year is the topsheet. This facilitates demoing last year's ski this year.
post #6 of 22

Outland 87 

Rossi 88 

check Dawgcatching's review on the Outland

post #7 of 22
I am 6'2 and have about 10 lbs on you. I ski the Kastle LX82 180cm. I skied the same ski last year in the 172 and I like the longer ski...just a lot better in crud and cut up conditions for me. A lot of discussion if you search on ski length and skier weight...being tall I am uncomfortable on the shorter lengths in transitional conditions, at least those few I have tried.

The LX is unisex like all Kastle's, but it does have a marketing bias towards women. The design premise is sticking with a light wood core, two sheets of metal, traditional camber, soft tip, and cap (instead of sidewall) construction so you end up with a relatively light ski that is very forgiving but has horsepower when you want it. The 180 length could be money for you.

LX92 has the same design but obviously a lot more soft snow bias...and you are probably between sizes unless you like skis in the low 170's. There were good deals on mint demos last year, worth trying if you can find them this year.
post #8 of 22

Rossi Pursuit HP ti.  

post #9 of 22

I'm 5'11", 145lb, so pretty lightweight. I've got on extremely well with Scott Crusades, in 169cm length, the last couple of years. They have a 90mm waist and have plenty of float in soft snow for me (although I haven't had the chance to try them in deep powder), but quite a pronounced sidecut and great edge grip, making them a blast for carving on piste too. Might be difficult to get hold of in the US, though. They're much more popular over here in Europe.
 

post #10 of 22

I have 2 of the skis mentioned here

1. Kastle lx82 172

2. Dynastar Sultan 85 172??

 

Me, I'm 5'8" 150. Level 7 skier. I like to ski mainly the front side on steep groomed runs.

 

Here's my take:

Sultans are heavier but carves pretty well. I like them when I think the runs don't have much top snow.

LX82 - Haven't skied them in "deeper" snow like 4" or more but compared to the runs that I try the Sultan's with I really DO NOT like them. For my style, they are way too squirrely(sp??)

 

If you get the chance, try the Blizzard Bushwacker in 173. These skis seemed to ski everything I like to ski and or light too smile.gif

 

Hope this helps...

post #11 of 22

Hi there,

 

For powerful frontside performance, on the lighter side for flex, I like the following:

 

REV 85 Pro: not too stiff, very snappy, tons of grip, 177cm

Rossi E88: good smooth turn profile, easy to get in and out of the turn, 178cm

Elan 888: little more damp and stable than the Rossi, pretty similar though, 177cm

Kastle LX92: maybe a touch on the wide side, but smooth, stable. I ski the 174cm and find it very versatile. 

Head i-Titan 170cm.  Really fun ski

Elan 78ti: not too stiff, plenty of performance in 176cm

K2 Sideshow: very responsive, nice flex pattern

Dynastar Outland 80 Pro: really liked this ski, found it super versatile, and a fun carver at a 16m radius with a very minor rocker profile. 178cm.

Blizzard 8.0 CA: again, good flex pattern, you could ski the 179cm, a little more rocker than the Dynastar, little more lively, not quite as stable.  179cm skis shorter than the Dyna* 178.

 

You likely have2 choices since you are lighter; go shorter with a bit stiffer ski than is ideal; or get a ski that is pretty close to ideal for your weight and ski the right length. If you live in a tight skiing area, the first option would be OK, as is the 2nd.  If you live out West and ski a bit faster, don't settle for a shorter ski. It will be way too much work in softer snow. Hold out for the right ski in the right length.

post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 

Dawgcatching I noticed that you did not list the nordica steadfast in you list. Is there a reason for that? Thank you so much for your help.

post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post

 

nice flex pattern

 

You refer to this a couple of times.What is a nice flex pattern, from your point of view?

post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
Dawg can you give me more information on the k2 sideshow I can't find much online
post #15 of 22

Atomic Access for the WIN!!!

post #16 of 22

Also try tele skiing I've heard it makes everything better!

post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 

What do people think would be a good waist for a 2 ski quiver that includes the Icelantic Shaman?

post #18 of 22
Mid to upper 80's since you are lighter.
post #19 of 22
I am 5' 8" 155 lbs and ski the Sultan 85. I have the original models, before they added a little rocker to it. This is my boot frontside ski. It is a nice burly ski that really seems to go when pushed hard. It was quite a bit stiffer than my previous ski, which is exactly what I wanted. It has given me a lot of confidence on the mountain.
post #20 of 22
Thread Starter 

What is the modern equivalent of the sultan 85?

post #21 of 22
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What is the modern equivalent of the sultan 85?

You will find the answer to that question in post #2 on this very thread. smile.gif
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