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Brand new Full Tilt Konflicts super tight?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Forgive any naivete for my first post.

Just bought my first pair of "brand new" ski boots, (as the topic says) Full Tilt Konflicts. Up to this point I've been using used boots that I pretty much just slid into and went on my way; wasn't super concerned about perfect fit.

So I did my research on sizing and ordered the Konflicts online, and though the foot feel is darn near perfect, and checking the shell indicates that I am darn close on the sizing, I am having a ridiculously hard time clasping down the cables even at their loosest (the top two), and after about 10 minutes it's almost a numbness that sets in. My legs aren't twigs, but I am definitely not rocking cankles either.

Before I try to 'break them in' on the mountain (if that's even possible) or take them to a bootfitter to look at, did I blatantly buy the wrong size boot?

I'd be afraid to order up in size, as the toe fit is spot on, but would like some expert opinion.

Thanks,

Mike

post #2 of 17
Just visit a boot fitter. Pay his fee or give him a twelve pack of his favorite beer. There is a little bit of technique to dial in those boots.
post #3 of 17
Intuition liners? Have you had them heat molded yet? They should still be pretty snug af
ter a proper mold. My experience is they also pack out a bit after 10-15 ski days.
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 

These are straight out of the box. Figured I'd ask here before going to a bootfitter if I am obviously strapped into the wrong thing.

 

Thanks guys

post #5 of 17
If you have not purchased footbeds yet, do so. A good boot fitter will be able to determine which one will be a good one for you.
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by Denny1969 View Post

If you have not purchased footbeds yet, do so. A good boot fitter will be able to determine which one will be a good one for you.

+1 takes the squish out of the soft footbed.
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 

Will head to the bootfitter on Sunday; worst case scenario I have to send back the Konflicts and go another route. I really like what Full Tilt is doing with these boots (not to mention they look awesome), so hopefully a molded liner and some adjustments will get these on target!

post #8 of 17

I hate to say it but, you are experiencing the downside to buying boots online.  I'm pretty sure these boots have Intuition liners which really do need to be heat molded to your feet.  Believe me it will make a huge difference in how they feel once it is done.  But, whatever you saved by buying online will probably be consumed getting them to fit just right.  Go to the "Ask the Boot Guys" forum and check the "Who's Who" to see if there's a fitter listed near you.  If there is, make an appointment.  If there isn't one listed, ask here and someone will be able to recommend a fitter.  Good luck.

post #9 of 17

Guys, If he has intuition liners in the boots, he really should not need foot beds.  Perhaps I have the easiest feet on earth, but custom $150 foot beds didn't do much if anything for me.  Taking my intuition liners into a shop that sold them and knew what they were doing, resulted in a $25 fee to get them baked and fitted in the shell correctly.  The difference in before and after baking is a night and day experience and the liners molded under my high arches for great support minus the foot beds.  Hopefully the OP got his liners baked correctly and if needed, a couple of buckles moved to give him better adjustment range for his feet.

post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the comments guys. I have an appointment this coming Friday with a proper bootfitter to get them tuned in. I spent enough on the boots that it'll be well worth the investment to get em just right. Just have to hope I have the right boot size to start with
post #11 of 17

I've skied both ways, with and without footbeds in the FT's.   I had the footbeds molded at the same time I had the liners done.  I believe the control is slightly better skiing on the firm foot bed instead of just the molded liner.  YMMV

post #12 of 17

According to the web site the boot has an Intuition liner made for this boot--not stock--which supposedly molds with body heat but faster with shop heat.  According to intuitions web site some intuition models have a thick enough sole that footbeds are not needed but can be used if there's room, and some have a thinner sole and should have footbeds. Your bootfitter should be able to advise you, of course.

post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 

Okay, had my date with the bootfitter tonight.

The Konflicts are going back, no doubt about it. As much as I love the way they look and have read nothing but positive reviews, these are definitively NOT the boot for me.

To start, my Last was measured at 106 (quack quack at my duck feet). The Konflicts are a 99.

Second, I ordered a 9.5, assuming a similar size to street fit. WRONG. 9.5 works for my daily kicks, cycling shoes, hiking boots etc., but I am more in the 7 range for ski boots. Strike 2.

 

 

And then strike 3, and the reason I am reviving this post in hopes of feedback from those familiar with Full Tilt boots:

The original post was about the 'Super Tight' feeling in the calves. Yeah, it wasn't my imagination; my calves are way bigger than these boots were apparently designed for. Not like I am some Mister-Universe-meets-the-Elephant-Man kind of freakish trunks, but I do a LOT of running and cycling (commute to work via a fixer gear daily).

That said, my fitter needs to order in a couple boots he feels might work better; off the top of his head were the Dalbello Boss and the Atomic LiveFit 120.
While I know fit trumps fashion here, they're both a little ugly to me; I also REALLY like the 3-piece design Full Tilt is working with.

SO, THE NEW QUESTION:

For those familiar with the Full tilt line, do you think the High Five stands a better chance of working? They have a 102 Last, which should be able to be punched out. But as for the calf diameter... do all FT boots run narrow in the legs, or are these boots wider up top to match the wider foot?

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by applekrate View Post

Okay, had my date with the bootfitter tonight.

The Konflicts are going back, no doubt about it. As much as I love the way they look and have read nothing but positive reviews, these are definitively NOT the boot for me.

To start, my Last was measured at 106 (quack quack at my duck feet). The Konflicts are a 99.

Second, I ordered a 9.5, assuming a similar size to street fit. WRONG. 9.5 works for my daily kicks, cycling shoes, hiking boots etc., but I am more in the 7 range for ski boots. Strike 2.

 

 

And then strike 3, and the reason I am reviving this post in hopes of feedback from those familiar with Full Tilt boots:

The original post was about the 'Super Tight' feeling in the calves. Yeah, it wasn't my imagination; my calves are way bigger than these boots were apparently designed for. Not like I am some Mister-Universe-meets-the-Elephant-Man kind of freakish trunks, but I do a LOT of running and cycling (commute to work via a fixer gear daily).
 

 

 

TBH, none of ^this is very surprising; which is why we never actually believe any posters when they say:

 

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Originally Posted by applekrate View Post


So I did my research on sizing and ordered t

 

 

 

As regards your question, I notice that the Boss is also very much a three-piece boot?

post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 

Yeah, I deserve what I got.

post #16 of 17

The Dalbello Boss, while it is a 3-piece boot, is quite different from the Full Tilts.  I ski in Dalbello Krypton Cross ID boots and like them a lot.  Unfortunately, Dalbello does not make a wide 3-piece boot that comes with an Intuition liner.  The Boss has a fairly ordinary tongue style liner instead of the Intuition wrap liner that's in the Full Tilts and some of the narrow Dalbello Krypton series boots.  I am not a boot fitter but I would guess that either the FT Booter or High Five could be punched out to fit your feet.  But. whether you can be comfortable in a wrap style liner is another question entirely and only you can answer that and then only by trying them.  If you don't mind paying some shipping charges, you could order either of those boots in the correct length and see if you can tolerate them.  If there's a Full Tilt dealer near you that would be even better.

post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by Zach Amero View Post

bro you are not very intelligent, these boots just dont fit your feet, you should have gone and seen a bootfitter or at least tried on multiple differnet pairs in the shop.  FTs are very narrow boots, I ride in them and they are not for everybodys feet.

You are the one coming across as not very intelligent since you don't even know what widths Full Tilts are made in.  The Booter and High Five are 102mm lasts while the other Full Tilts are 99mm and even 99mm does not meet the definition of "very narrow" because there are narrower boots on the market.  So lighten up and stop insulting people.

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