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Volkl P60 GC Race stock -2005

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Question to all --I am a beer league racer who is a better skier than racer.  I would like to change this.  I am currently "racing" on a pair of 2010 Volkl Mantras in a 185 lenth.  I am looking to purchase a used pair of "race" skis and am debating if I should purchase a pair of Volkl P60 GC Race stock -2005 skis - listed for $150, may take less or should I try to look for something newer at the end of the season...I don't want to spend more than $300-$400 in total..

 

Any advise would be appreciated.Thx

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I still use 2003 Volkl P40 motion skis as my fast groomer skis.  The P60 GC should be fast, but I don't know if $150 is good or bad.  Mine have no speed limit and accelerate very fast once you get going, very stable as well.  I fly past everybody on these.

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With a budget of $3-400 you should be able to get something more modern than those P60s. You didn't state your height and weight, but I'd look for one of the 18-19 M cheater GS skis from any of the manufacturers in probably a 175-180 length.

 

The Mantras may be fun out of the course, but they've got to be frustrating to race on. I've done NASTAR out west on my 94 waist skis, and you just can't get fast enough edge to edge (not that I'm a great racer).

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Apart from anything else, racers tune a lot. If the skis were used for racing, you'd want to make sure there was still edge left. But i agree with John V's basic point.
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For what it's worth, here's another data point for you, bear in mind I am no racer and have no training.

 

I have a pair of 2002 P50 F1 Energy skis in 188 cm length.

Their speed limit is a little below that of my 190 cm Volant Machettes, (but feels about the same or higher) and well below my old-schoool SG skis.  They feel great at GS speeds, but that feeling is decptive.  Their main problem, at least for a hack like me, is that the longitudinal flex is a little too soft.  If all goes as planed, they are fine, but  if you find yourself having to make an extreme move when push comes the shove, they are not able to get the force out to the tip and fold up instead.  The two other skis mentioned above don't have that problem.  I have learned to be very very careful skiing these at speed.

 

I think you can find a better option, just my opinion; your mileage may vary.

post #6 of 12
Sboros, what is your height and weight? Where do you ski? Are you going to use your race ski for anything besides racing?
post #7 of 12

Qcanoe is right-if you buy used race skis, they may have been used hard and tuned often. I replaced my three season old Atomic D2 cheaters with the new Redster version this year, as it was apparent that the edges were getting somewhat thinner. I diamond stone before every race (even thought tuning is no substitute for my mediocre technique) and three years of beer league, Masters and Nastar racing took its toll. The new skis are stiffer and have much more pop. The old ones have been relegated to training and inspection and actually are fun to free ski in most conditions as they have softened up quite a bit.

 

Bottom line-if you go used make sure they have life left in them unless the price is too good to pass up.

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I'm 5'`11" 205 - strong expert, like to go fast but I'm not sure if I will be using the skis for anything other than racing.  Either way they will be my MI skis and will keep the Mantras for my trips out west.

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is this too much ski? 2011 Fischer WC GS Hole Ski 183cm 27m

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is this too much ski? 2011 Fischer WC GS Hole Ski 183cm 27

Probably.........you may get to the point where you can use a ski like this effectively, but if you're just learning to race it'll be too much. Usually beer league sets are less than 27M and you'll struggle to really carve with these. That's my $.02 anyway-others may disagree.

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is this too much ski? 2011 Fischer WC GS Hole Ski 183cm 27

Probably.........you may get to the point where you can use a ski like this effectively, but if you're just learning to race it'll be too much. Usually beer league sets are less than 27M and you'll struggle to really carve with these. That's my $.02 anyway-others may disagree.

 

Agree, assuming you are doing Nastar-type races. If you want a Fischer, you'd be better off with a sub-20m "cheater" GS ski like this, unless you are racing full-on GS courses like serious masters races. The other big brands all have something similar.

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thanks for the input!

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