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Alpine/Telemark Ski Comparison- Bonafides and Bushwackers

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 

Hi All,

 

Looking to get some Alpine skis after 25 years on tele boards and I'm trying to get up to speed on equipment.

 

I'm 5'10", 175- ski 180 Verdicts and 174 World Pistes.

 

Anyone have comments on the following theoretical comparisons?

 

BD Verdicts = Blizzard Bonafides

 

K2 World Piste = Blizzard Bushwackers

 

Any comments are appreciated.

 

Thanks,
Jason

post #2 of 8

Welcome to the Forum!!

 

Opening qualifier: haven't skied any of the skis you're asking about (doubt you'll find anyone here that's skied the WPswink.gif), but ....

 

I feel confident in saying that the WPs are nothing like the Bushwackers, and I suspect that the same is true for the Verdicts/Bonafides (although perhaps not quite as much as for the other skis). What kind of bindings have you been using i.e. neutral vs active , and what do you plan to mount on  your new skis?  I recommend trying your questions over on TTips. Be prepared for a huge amount of change/adjustment with your new equipment!
 

post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 

Hi Paul,

 

Thanks for the reply. For tele, I have used hammerheads,  BD O1s and old Rainey superloops. I really have no idea about any alpine bindings.

 

The thinking behind my comparison was:

 

World Piste- a lot of sidecut, easy turning, soft ski. Nice on groomers. Seems like these comments seem to come up a lot on the Bushwacker comments.

 

Verdict- Faster, GS type ski that requires more staying on top of things and driving it. Better suited to plow through crud and powder, but can still hold its own on groomers.

 

Right now, I'm thinking the Bushwackers would probably suit my style as I like a little more sidecut (Seems more like the WP dimensions) and don't get into powder that much. The Verdicts are more of a faster GS style ski, but they take more driving.

 

However, people seem to rave about the Bonafides and say they are great on the groomers.

 

I'll try and post on ttips as well.

 

Thanks again.
 

post #4 of 8

Sounds like you are on the East Coast??  You might want to consider a front side carver if you are predominantly on hardpack.  Regarding the Bushwacker - keep in mind it's got both tip and tail rocker. 
 

post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 

Actually, I'm on the West Coast, ski Mammoth mainly. But I have an 8 year old and it's a 5 hour drive. so I take what I get :)

 

If I could bother you for one more question, when you say to keep in mind that it's got tip and tail rocker, what is the effect of that?

 

Appreciate all the guidance.

post #6 of 8
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If I could bother you for one more question, when you say to keep in mind that it's got tip and tail rocker, what is the effect of that?

 

A ski with rocker will ski shorter than the stated length.  How much shorter depends on the amount of rocker and whether it is only in the tip or both tip and tail.  I've skied the Bushwacker and it does not have a huge amount of rocker so it only skis a bit shorter.  I have a similar ski, Nordica Steadfast, semi twintip with tip rocker, and ski a 170.  I'm 5'7-8", 150 pounds.

post #7 of 8

Pretty much what mtcyclist sez, but since he's on fixed heel bindings he can go shorter than us (not a lot, just a little)!  Easier turn initiation but you need to be ready for the tip and tail hook-up as you continue to roll over onto the edge. Again, if you haven't skied rocker at all before, be prepared for new sensations .......

post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 

Cool. Thanks for the info. really appreciate the insights.

 

I'll try and do some demo'ing to get a feel for this stuff.
 

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