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HELP ME!!! I have a pair of Elan S 12's that need to be replaced....

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New to the site but I'm hoping someone can help me out. 

 

A little about me - 45 years old, 6' 2", 190 lbs, Lange RX 110 boots. 

 

My question - I have a pair of Elan S 12's (184 cm's) that I absolutly love but probably need replacing soon and I have no idea which ski is most similar to this ski.

 

What I love about these skis - These skis are incredibly versatile able to carve long turns but suprisingly quick edge to edge when you want to.  They are very stable at all speeds (I haven't found the speed limit yet but admittedly I'm not necessarily looking for it either).  When pushed they seem to give everything back but I can also kick back on them and not have to worry about getting bit in the a$$.  In short - these are the best skis I have ever owned for ME (I don't want to start a debate on the best ski PERIOD).

 

I have demoed Volkl RTM's - nice but felt way too stiff and too on / off for me.  When I pushed them they were great but I never felt comfortable kicking back on them.  Also tried Fischer Progressor C Line 1000 - it also was nice but did not seem as versatile as the Elans.  According to the Elan website I should be on the Amphibio Waveflex 14's (176 cm's) but I can't find a pair of these to demo.

 

Anyone familiar enough with the Elan S 12's to give me some idea which ski(s) might be most like them?  Any help would be appreciated. 

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I owned a pair of the Elan S12's, as well as the pre Amphibio Speedwave 12's and Waveflex 78's. Did not have the same feel as the S12's, different skis. To me, the S12 was similar in feel to a Rossi, or possibly a K2. Actually, now that I think about it, the S12 was very similar in feel to a pair of Dynastar Contact Cross Ti's that I had. I have a feeling that if you liked the S12's, you would also like the Cross TI. The one person I can think of that has had extensive experience with the Elan line would be Dawgcatching here on the forum. He would be the man to talk to. If he doesn't jump in here, try sending him a PM. I'm sure he would be glad to help you out.

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Mac -  Thank you.  I appreciate your insight.  Unless I'm mistaken - the Contact Cross's are an old model as well (at least I did not find it on the Dynastar website.

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Yes, the pair I had were a 2010 model. I'm sure they've gone the way of the dinosaur by now. The only companies I know of now that are still making a design similar to the old S12's (re: no rocker) are Head, Kastle, Stockli, and possibly some Fischers. But I would seriously give Dawgcatching a shout. He's a ski shop owner, and a big fan of Elan's. The new Amphibio's have been getting some great reviews, I'm sure he could fill you in on all the details. I don't know of anyone that could give you better advice on the subject than him. And I'm sure he'd be glad to sell you a pair, too. biggrin.gif  But there's nothing wrong with that, I've probably bought half a dozen pairs from him, and he's always treated me more than fairly.

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Originally Posted by PTocko View Post

New to the site but I'm hoping someone can help me out. 

 

A little about me - 45 years old, 6' 2", 190 lbs, Lange RX 110 boots. 

 

My question - I have a pair of Elan S 12's (184 cm's) that I absolutly love but probably need replacing soon and I have no idea which ski is most similar to this ski.

 

What I love about these skis - These skis are incredibly versatile able to carve long turns but suprisingly quick edge to edge when you want to.  They are very stable at all speeds (I haven't found the speed limit yet but admittedly I'm not necessarily looking for it either).  When pushed they seem to give everything back but I can also kick back on them and not have to worry about getting bit in the a$$.  In short - these are the best skis I have ever owned for ME (I don't want to start a debate on the best ski PERIOD).

 

I have demoed Volkl RTM's - nice but felt way too stiff and too on / off for me.  When I pushed them they were great but I never felt comfortable kicking back on them.  Also tried Fischer Progressor C Line 1000 - it also was nice but did not seem as versatile as the Elans.  According to the Elan website I should be on the Amphibio Waveflex 14's (176 cm's) but I can't find a pair of these to demo.

 

Anyone familiar enough with the Elan S 12's to give me some idea which ski(s) might be most like them?  Any help would be appreciated. 

 

 

Hi there,

 

I used to own the S12, it was a nice ski. 2 sheets of metal, but not a full sidewall, so not super burly.

 

The closest equivalents in the current lineup would be the Waveflex 12 and Waveflex 78ti.  Both have 1 sheet of metal and full sidewall, so similar in flex to the s12.  The WF12 is a little more quick edge to edge, the 78ti a little more ease in junky snow, but both are very good frontside type all-mountain skis. I have skied zipper-line bumps in both, and they were at home there, as well as on groomers and steep off-piste.  Both are a good blend of all-mountain ability with carving prowess.

 

Here I am on the Waveflex 12 in 176cm.  Loved this ski for hardpack and corn snow: not too stiff, not too soft, I can drive it but won't get pushed around too much of I make a mistake.  the Waveflex 14 is definitely stiffer, almost like a slalom race carver. Great ski too, but more aggressive, likes to play on groomers more than being taken off-piste. 

 

 

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First off - thanks a ton Mac and Dawgcatching (awesome pic by the way). A little more about me to see if this changes your thoughts at all. I ski primarily in the Midwest (within 6 hours of minneapolis) and I have only a ONE ski quiver. I know - its practically blasphemy but with a 5 and 7 year old that both play hockey (in addition to skiing) its all I can afford. So... Almost ALL of my skiing is on groomed trails - very little if any off-pista. Also, I do the occasional beer can league race as well (raced through college and still enjoy crashing gates OCCASIONALLY). Seriously - the S 12's really have been a do-it-all ski for me. I'm sure dedicated race skis would be faster but I'm okay with the s 12's and my times aren't embarrassing - is isn't the ski's fault in any case smile.gif...

Dawgcatching - what is your stores name / contact info. I'm intrigued by both the skis you mentioned - would like to give you a call to discuss further if that would be okay. Don't have to buy local - Elans are not well supported here so no real loyalty to my otherwise faithful local ski shop.

Thanks again - I appreciate the help!

Paul
post #7 of 9

Trying to suggest a ski that "feels" like one you previously had is pretty subjective, and probably not a good way to choose a ski. Everyone is going to have their own opinion, and the only opinion that really counts is yours. If you've been happy with Elan's, your best bet will probably be to stick with them. Dawg's recommendation of the Waveflex 12 and 78Ti is spot on, IMO. I've owned both, can't really go wrong with either one. I also agree with Scott's take on the Waveflex 14. Even though I'm a bigger guy, I feel as though the 14 is stiffer and not as versatile as the 12 or 78 Ti. The 78Ti will be more all mountain capable, but if you ski mostly groomers and hardpack, the 12 should do just fine. All Scott's contact info is listed right underneath the picture he posted. Good luck.

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Thread Starter 

Mac - Thanks, and I agree.  Please understand, I'm not looking for a ski that "feels" the same.  Rather I am looking for a ski that does it all (for me) like the S 12.  I think the 78 Ti looks like a good fit - similar radius to the S 12 and similar ski dimensions.  I realize it may "feel" very different - especially in the beginning - but I believe (at least I hope) this ski will be just as versatile. Thanks again for your input - I sincerely appreciate it.

 

Thanks also for pointing out Scotts (aka dawgcatching) contact info.  I will give him a ring.

 

Paul

post #9 of 9

I normally ski the elan 14's but had access to some 12's last week as my 14's were sharpened.

 

There is not alot of difference between the two. I am a big guy (220lb) and ski hard but the 12's performed really well on most hills and in the bumps. I prefer my 14's when the speed gets closer to warp but baring that, I would give a strong vote for the 12's.

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