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Anyone else have this happen?? Injury above ankle..feedback please!

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  • So, I was skiing Allias Alley at Tride (our home resort) this past weekend when I turned left in some deeper powder, ski got stuck, but leg kept going...felt a pop on the lower left leg inside my boot and then pain. Managed to get down the run but it was ugly bc I couldn't put much weight on left leg when turning.  Rode the Apex Lift up...ski patrol hut(thankfully) right there and got the sled ride down. First injury on the slopes in 16 yrs...but I have had an avulsion fx to the left foot(ankle area) and have sprained ankle x 3 since then, Last sprain was in '11.  ER and ortho doc say no fractures from xrays....waiting for time to see if I need MRI. The injury is above the ankle joint (different area from fx and past sprains)and feels to be fibular (lateral and posterior aspect of left leg). It is better since Sat. Less soreness and More range of motion now. But, when I overextend the ankle (stretching in bed and walking ) I feel it pop again on occasion and then slight pain.PS about 4-10. So my question is this? Does this sound like a surgical repair or just a sprain that will heal with time and has anyone else out there had this injury?? I have been off of it as much as possible. Ice, elevation, compression(wear an airsplint when I am up) too. Thanks so much! Karen
post #2 of 14
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And any info on exercises, post recovery time too would be appreciated!! I am hoping and praying to ski again this season. But, I want to be prudent...and not reinjure leg or worse the other! 8-0 It bums me out to be off the slopes...but I know that there are other epicskiers out there that are and that makes it better!

post #3 of 14

I broke my heel and went to my ortho doc and told him.  He took films and told me it was not broken.  I went back for more films after feeling it grind against itself and having a lightining bolt go up my spine....no broken bones he said.

 

A month later I went back in and told him it is broken for sure.  He took some xrays at oddball angles and promptly scheduled surgery.   They are human and miss stuff often. 

 

Get a second opinion.

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Thx Snowfan, I'll give it more time. I had 2 different docs look at the xrays and saw no fx. The popping sound concerns me. As does the pain after. Feels more like a ligament or tendon to me. I AM curious as to whether anyone else had a similar experience and if so, how long to rehab or did they have to have surgical repair?

post #5 of 14

Where does the popping sound originate from, can you feel the pop or just hear it,  can you feel it with your hand? 

 

edit,

 

This is my uneducated guess, (but I also am a coach/trainer and deal with TONS of ankle injuries).     Sounds like a high ankle sprain,  the tendon on outside of the ankle has been strained and actually popped out of place, then quickly back in, the tendon is a little stretched out and needs rest.    It will continue to pop and hurt for a while, but resist the urge to check to see if its still popping, (you know what I mean).  As your body repairs itself the popping will go away and so will the pain.  

Here is my advice, rest it for another couple more days and Ice for 15 minutes at a time, (let it thaw prior to movement after ice) and make sure STAY OFF OF IT FOR the next 2 days,  yep just stay off of it.  (IF YOU WANT TO SHORTEN THE HEALING TIME STAY OFF OF IT)  Then spend a couple of days doing some basic physical therapy, using a towel under your toes and pushing against it while holding the ends of the towel in hand, and doing basic ankle motion that will NOT cause the popping, in other words do sets of ankle movement but none that will cause it to pop.    TAPE OR BRACE IT,   Tape is the best if you know how, I can explain better if you want or show you a youtube video.        Most people use a brace because it's a pain to tape yourself, but I always tape my athletes and myself, it's more custom and works better.        Sunday get on a stationary bike and do some easy pedaling, and again on  monday etc...   keep moving it, icing, stretching etc...    Each physical therapist has his / her way of healing things, all work if you stick with them and don't over do it.  


Edited by pdiddy - 2/6/13 at 1:57pm
post #6 of 14
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Thankyou, pdiddy. I actually got that exercise with the towel from an ortho doc but haven't done it yet. It popped again a little while ago and hurt, so I would like that youtube video of taping, pretty please. I hope that all it is is a high ankle sprain. This does makes me feel better. How long do you normally see players off for this type of injury??   Doggoneit. I don't like sitting! :P

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Thankyou, pdiddy. I actually got that exercise with the towel from an ortho doc but haven't done it yet. It popped again a little while ago and hurt, so I would like that youtube video of taping, pretty please. I hope that all it is is a high ankle sprain. This does makes me feel better. How long do you normally see players off for this type of injury??   Doggoneit. I don't like sitting! :P

Hard to say but plan on at least 3-6 weeks.....  Really hard for me to say without actually seeing you and working it, could be 2 or 4 weeks but, sounds like 3-6 to me.....   You will want that particular sprain to heal prior to skiing....    Other sprains are not so problematic because you are in a ski boot and it serves as a brace, but a high ankle sprain is not just about support but leverage (not sure if that makes sense)   Don't do towel work out or anything till Saturday...  Just rest ice and slow full movement, but don't do movement that will make it pop.  

 

Anyways,     here is the Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pPROeq7wEM    However,,,,  your tape job will be slightly modified,,   apply the pre wrap about 2 inches higher on your shin then shown on the video,  Start at the top of the pre wrap and put 4 anchors, overlapping each by half. (each anchor will not be wrapped straight around the leg, start at an angle on front of shin working slightly towards the foot while wrapping around the back of the leg then the tape will naturally angle back up to meet the top of the same piece, tear it off and repeat 4 times overlapping each.    Then 1 anchor on the bottom, (just wrap the ball of your foot around once,    Then do your 3 stirrups,  medial to lateral (inside of leg to outside and these can be snug).  Then 3 horseshoes, overlapping by half and should overlap the bottom anchor, (snug also).   Then you really only need to do 1 heal lock on each side (not to snug)  (your not playing football on it...)    You don't need to do the figure 8s either, you can do this later when you want to go ski on it.    But if you want to go ahead..     Lastly close the windows starting at the top of the tape and working all the way down to the heal bone, starting a new piece on each revolution following the same angles as described for the anchors,(you are basically do anchors all the way down to ankle bone, , on the last piece by the heel bone, continue that piece over the top of the foot and wrap around the foot all the way to the end of the tape job (ball of your foot), In other words making the tap job look pretty and securing all the support you have created under that final layer.  Don't put in on tight, or loose, just slightly snug.   It should feel snug, if you go to tight you will now because your foot will go numb,,, if this happens, slide scissors carefully between ball of foot and tape and cut a half inch, then re-tape that area over the old tape.  (usually that is where people screw up and make it tight or loose..)    Anyways hope that helps.  Sprains suck and the just take time, broken bones actually heal better... 

 

PS.  most sprains I would say movement and therapy now, but the popping indicates that the tendon needs REST... 

post #8 of 14
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Ok! Thanks.... can you use coban for prewrap or as the tape or does it need to be tape? The blue wrap that was shown in the video is coban. It is a stretchy material that is used in medicine and with vets. It sticks to itself, but not to skin if you are unfamiliar with it. I appreciate all the info...very, very much! Karen

post #9 of 14

I guess you can use it for pre wrap, never tried it, always used pre wrap (you get more on a roll and it covers more area Pre wrap).   You have to use tape,  coban is stretchy and will not give you the support you need.    You can use Coban during the last week of healing to transition off of tape.  

post #10 of 14
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I am in a camwalker courtesy of ortho surgeon(as of a little while ago) to stabilize the ligament it is my superior peroneal ligament and reticunaculam. The splint was not keeping it in place bc I could still flex. TIt was stretched/sprained to a degree that it when it was overflexed it was popping out of place. So, boot for a month. Then eval. No skiing for me til after and probably not again this season.:/

You are good at uneducated guesses!! Molto Grazi again!

post #11 of 14

Bummer,  hope you feel better soon....  Plan on skiing in april for sure.  No doubt.     MAKE SURE you do the therapy I mentioned,  DO NOT just boot and do nothing, tape and ride stationary bike.  Starting next week.   (doctors have a habit of telling everyone to just cast and do nothing, its a safe way for them to avoid problems and it will 100 percent heal with the doctors recommendation, however the duration will be much longer.   

post #12 of 14
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Great to hear I might be able to ski again this season. That would be sweet!

 I will exercise. I plan on getting on the bike. Can I bike in the boot? In case my ortho doc is at the gym. :-D

Of course, I will wear the boot while walking. I've been it except to change. Sleeping in it( bc it was popping when I stretched waking up during the night) but it is cumbersome. And I am going to tape it later today. I am also taking supplements to promote healing. Mg, Niacin, Vit C, Zinc, B12, B6. Being a good patient/girl.:)

post #13 of 14

lol, well biking in the boot will keep your upper legs and butt in shape!  :)   You can certainly do an aggressive workout like that, but during cool down mode, take the boot off.  How about that?   You may also want to have someone else tape you ankle for you, (it kinda hard to do it alone wink.gif, no pun intended).  well maybe a little.... 

post #14 of 14
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Ha. Thanks. Used the coban, I had help, and worked well. Only prob was it was a tad too tight. Will redo today. No exercise yet. Waiting til tomorrow. Then will start the toes. Monday, to bike or not to bike, that is the question.:)

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